2023/11/02 20:45:41
Sajin
zerocool101
Just thinking in the future with new video cards if we will have the same issue like with the 4090 FE that didn't show display without a newer BIOS....In that case we are SOL.

Never had that issue with my Gigabyte card. Must have been just isolated to the FE.
 
2023/11/03 06:29:51
redarman
Flybye
Does anyone think its worth going to the 13900KS from a 12900k? All I’ve been looking at are FPS differences, and it’s not a whole lot. For double the $ I’m liable to get 2x-4x the performance in fps from a 4080 from what I’d get from the KS.

What game, resolution, and FPS are you aiming for? 
2023/11/03 16:56:48
Flybye
redarman
Flybye
Does anyone think its worth going to the 13900KS from a 12900k? All I’ve been looking at are FPS differences, and it’s not a whole lot. For double the $ I’m liable to get 2x-4x the performance in fps from a 4080 from what I’d get from the KS.

What game, resolution, and FPS are you aiming for? 


Most of my games I average 100-150+ fps, but Cyberpunk has been my pain point. With my 3080 last test I did I averaged 72fps with min at 59fps at almost 1440p. Yeah, I like playing it all maxed. I did one run with the game, and my next run I want to get around 83+ min fps since my refresh rate is 83.
2023/11/03 17:00:21
redarman
Flybye
redarman
Flybye
Does anyone think its worth going to the 13900KS from a 12900k? All I’ve been looking at are FPS differences, and it’s not a whole lot. For double the $ I’m liable to get 2x-4x the performance in fps from a 4080 from what I’d get from the KS.

What game, resolution, and FPS are you aiming for? 


Most of my games I average 100-150+ fps, but Cyberpunk has been my pain point. With my 3080 last test I did I averaged 72fps with min at 59fps at almost 1440p. Yeah, I like playing it all maxed. I did one run with the game, and my next run I want to get around 83+ min fps since my refresh rate is 83.


almost 1440p? 83Hz refresh rate? These are some weird stats. Anyway I think a 3080 upgraded 4080/4090 will do a lot more than 12900KF upgraded to 13900k or 14900k for Cyberpunk2077 Max settings on a 2540x1440 display.
2023/11/03 18:31:52
Flybye
It IS a weird stat, but too many questions come up when I mention I’m at 2235 x 1397 @83Hz 🤣. I have the Sony 24” FW900 16:10 CRT. I’ve had one since the mid 2000s, and my current one for a bit over 10 years before the CRT price insanity. OLED is finally starting to catch up, and I’m sure I’ll be upgrading soon to retire the CRT to a mid 2000s build.

TY. A 4080/4090 upgrade is exactly what I expected. Lets see what happens with those 4080ti that might be around the corner.
2023/11/09 13:27:28
Talon2020
I edited the BIOS for the Z690 Dark to enable Intel Dynamic Tuning Technology in the BIOS, and therefore Intel APO or Application Performance Optimization with 14900K for BIOS version 2.13. As it stands, this is not available in the default BIOS and therefore you cannot enable APO or use the required DTT driver. I used the Asrock Z790 Nova Intel DTT driver as all mobos are using a generic Intel driver package so can be cross installed. 
 
https://imgur.com/iSJMx2Z
 
I tested Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, and it's working 100% like my Z790 Apex with 14900K. 
APO ON: 
  • Average Framerate (99th percentile): 176.03
  • Max. Framerate (99th percentile): 272.78
  • Min. Framerate (99th percentile): 97.92
APO OFF: 
  • Average Framerate (99th percentile): 150.81
  • Max. Framerate (99th percentile): 231.70
  • Min. Framerate (99th percentile): 94.0
Works a charm! Apparently were going to have to fix these issue ourselves going forward with EVGA completely MIA. Thankfully it appears we can at least fix some of the issues and get the big stuff working. I'm going to try and get the newest Microcodes added to the BIOS and flashable without brick like this fix. Unfortunately I am learning as I go and really have to rely on other peoples guides. Hopefully I can get it figured out. 
2023/11/10 00:13:24
Cpt.Derrek
Talon2020
I edited the BIOS for the Z690 Dark to enable Intel Dynamic Tuning Technology in the BIOS, and therefore Intel APO or Application Performance Optimization with 14900K for BIOS version 2.13. As it stands, this is not available in the default BIOS and therefore you cannot enable APO or use the required DTT driver. I used the Asrock Z790 Nova Intel DTT driver as all mobos are using a generic Intel driver package so can be cross installed. 
 
https://imgur.com/iSJMx2Z
 
I tested Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, and it's working 100% like my Z790 Apex with 14900K. 
APO ON: 
  • Average Framerate (99th percentile): 176.03
  • Max. Framerate (99th percentile): 272.78
  • Min. Framerate (99th percentile): 97.92
APO OFF: 
  • Average Framerate (99th percentile): 150.81
  • Max. Framerate (99th percentile): 231.70
  • Min. Framerate (99th percentile): 94.0
Works a charm! Apparently were going to have to fix these issue ourselves going forward with EVGA completely MIA. Thankfully it appears we can at least fix some of the issues and get the big stuff working. I'm going to try and get the newest Microcodes added to the BIOS and flashable without brick like this fix. Unfortunately I am learning as I go and really have to rely on other peoples guides. Hopefully I can get it figured out. 




Nice tinkering! Did you use a bios editing tool to modify the bios and then reflash it? or was it something else since you said you have not got the newest microcode.
 
I was considering trying to fiddle with a 14900K and this board but was able to snag a 13900k on ebay for $400 so I'll just settle for that.
2023/11/10 07:39:52
Talon2020
Cpt.Derrek
 
 
Nice tinkering! Did you use a bios editing tool to modify the bios and then reflash it? or was it something else since you said you have not got the newest microcode.
 
I was considering trying to fiddle with a 14900K and this board but was able to snag a 13900k on ebay for $400 so I'll just settle for that.




I used a few bios editing tools to simply unhide the Dynamic Tuning Technology that was already in the BIOS, just hidden from us. It was never used before, so it makes sense EVGA previously hid this feature as it had no use before Intel APO. With APO now out and it likely to grow in support game list I wanted to ensure this EVGA board would work with it, and it works flawlessly. Intel has said APO is an "early preview" software, and they've said the game support list will grow and it's very early days for the new feature. 
 
EVGA if you're listening and you plan a new BIOS update, WE NEED DYANAMIC TUNING enabled and unhidden, as well as the generic Intel DTT driver packaged up. Copy Pasta from other vendors lol. 
2023/11/10 09:56:26
Cool GTX
(snip)
Talon2020
 
EVGA if you're listening and you plan a new BIOS update, WE NEED DYANAMIC TUNING enabled and unhidden, as well as the generic Intel DTT driver packaged up. Copy Pasta from other vendors lol. 


Best place to make that suggestion:  Complaints and Suggestions
 
 
 
 
2023/11/10 10:42:44
ilukeberry
Talon2020
I edited the BIOS for the Z690 Dark to enable Intel Dynamic Tuning Technology in the BIOS, and therefore Intel APO or Application Performance Optimization with 14900K for BIOS version 2.13. As it stands, this is not available in the default BIOS and therefore you cannot enable APO or use the required DTT driver. I used the Asrock Z790 Nova Intel DTT driver as all mobos are using a generic Intel driver package so can be cross installed. 
 
https://imgur.com/iSJMx2Z
 
I tested Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, and it's working 100% like my Z790 Apex with 14900K. 
APO ON: 
  • Average Framerate (99th percentile): 176.03
  • Max. Framerate (99th percentile): 272.78
  • Min. Framerate (99th percentile): 97.92
APO OFF: 
  • Average Framerate (99th percentile): 150.81
  • Max. Framerate (99th percentile): 231.70
  • Min. Framerate (99th percentile): 94.0
Works a charm! Apparently were going to have to fix these issue ourselves going forward with EVGA completely MIA. Thankfully it appears we can at least fix some of the issues and get the big stuff working. I'm going to try and get the newest Microcodes added to the BIOS and flashable without brick like this fix. Unfortunately I am learning as I go and really have to rely on other peoples guides. Hopefully I can get it figured out. 


Amazing work! :)

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