• EVGA Z690 Series
  • BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) (p.9)
2022/10/18 06:29:57
frankd3
Zero939
frankd3
B0baganoosh
Anybody tried this with the classy yet? 13900k inbound and I'm curious if I'll be able to get much over 6000 on two dimms.

I saw that somebody discovered that it is really a problem with some 12th gen processors and not the motherboard.
 
EDIT: never mind I just found it again and I think it's a different issue. Sorry.


No word from intel or anyone yet. Evga is silent even though they would already have the answer.

Intel claims 10000MT RAM is possible, but im guessing thats in a Z790 Dark or something else with lots of layers/better electrical design.

So you too believe it's more likely a motherboard issue?
2022/10/18 06:30:29
B0baganoosh
Zero939
frankd3
B0baganoosh
Anybody tried this with the classy yet? 13900k inbound and I'm curious if I'll be able to get much over 6000 on two dimms.

I saw that somebody discovered that it is really a problem with some 12th gen processors and not the motherboard.
 
EDIT: never mind I just found it again and I think it's a different issue. Sorry.


No word from intel or anyone yet. Evga is silent even though they would already have the answer.

Intel claims 10000MT RAM is possible, but im guessing thats in a Z790 Dark or something else with lots of layers/better electrical design.



Yeah, I didn't mean to indicate confusion there, but from what information exists, it seems that the order of best to worst RAM speed would be:
13900k on z790 Dark
13900k on z690 Dark
13900k on z790 Classy
13900k on z690 classy
12900k on z690 Dark (possible this is also above the 13900k classy, but unsure)
12900k on z690 Classy
(note: these assume only 2 DIMMs are populated in the Classy boards)
 
This is because I think it is safe to assume that you may get some boost in memory performance going from 12900k to 13900k, even on z690. I think the headroom is higher on z790 possible, but I don't think the motherboards will have too much improvement on what are already good designs. In the EVGA boards, you definitely get more benefit from the 2-DIMM Dark layout than you get going from z690 to z790 on memory. So from early tests and marketing materials from Intel, it is suggested that 13900k has an improved IMC, so that means even if you put it on a z690, you may get some additional performance headroom. I wouldn't expect to push a 13900k on a z690 Classy as far as you could on a z690 Dark or z790, but I would think it's possible to improve the 6400MT advertised. 
 
All that aside, What I was actually asking about was the fact that some others seemed to indicate that they were getting improved memory performance on this beta BIOS than on previous released BIOS versions. So even though it hasn't been reported to be 100% stable with 12900k, I was curious if anybody (as some did with the Dark) just fired it up anyway and pushed their memory a bit with the z690 Classy. It seems that either nobody did, or nobody who did has read my question and/or wants to talk about it. I did tie them together because I am wondering what happens if I throw a 13900k into my z690 classy...will I get the improvements of this BIOS, plus 13900k IMC and not have the stability issues of running this BIOS with 12900k? That is the curiosity.
2022/10/18 14:05:22
Talon2020
When can we expect a full Raptor Lake support BIOS? Release is in 2 days and as far as I can tell only EVGA doesn't have an official BIOS available for launch so far. 
2022/10/18 14:29:29
rulik006
EVGA Team should bring bios for z690 classy that improve DDR5 stabillity, because recent Gigabyte's F20b bios made possible 4dimm 8L pcb Z690 Master to maintain 6800 stable, which bring it to uniqe z690-F strix level that can do 6800 almost from the launch ( i have one)
While 10layer Z690 Classified not stable above 6400 with m-die, which is pathetic comparing to physically weaker boards
I dont want to change my EVGA board, but if support will be so slow and lame, i will have to


2022/10/19 06:32:04
zippytek
Talon2020
When can we expect a full Raptor Lake support BIOS? Release is in 2 days and as far as I can tell only EVGA doesn't have an official BIOS available for launch so far. 




2.00 has raptor lake support. I'd guess they will make the beta an official release this week, or else we'll see 2.0x in its place in the next day or 2
2022/10/19 16:25:16
Talon2020
zippytek
Talon2020
When can we expect a full Raptor Lake support BIOS? Release is in 2 days and as far as I can tell only EVGA doesn't have an official BIOS available for launch so far. 




2.00 has raptor lake support. I'd guess they will make the beta an official release this week, or else we'll see 2.0x in its place in the next day or 2




You would like to hope that EVGA could provide a full official BIOS with 13th gen support seeing as it launches tomorrow... Asus just dropped another official 13th gen BIOS for my Hero board and we can't get an official non-beta bios before launch? They're not busy working on GPUs lol, so lets hope they can divert some company resources to their other products soon. 
2022/10/19 18:01:32
EVGA_Lee
Official BIOS for 13th Gen Support will be posted later tonight.
2022/10/19 18:04:31
Talon2020
EVGATech_LeeM
Official BIOS for 13th Gen Support will be posted later tonight.




HYPE!!!  Thanks for confirming that! 
2022/10/19 18:20:55
Dopeman343
so what about four dimms ad 6400 on a z690 classy ? will a 13900k fix that issue ? from what i have read if you put in four dimms it will limit the speed of the ddr5.
 
thanks for replies in advance

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