It'll be interesting to see how the 3090ti does if it actually gets released. If the 450w reference PL rumor is correct, what will the PL of the FTW3 be? 500? 550?

Also wondering how feasible air cooling will be for the 40 series if the PL goes up again. Really are approaching the need for water cooling for the high end cards.

talon951
It'll be interesting to see how the 3090ti does if it actually gets released. If the 450w reference PL rumor is correct, what will the PL of the FTW3 be? 500? 550?

Also wondering how feasible air cooling will be for the 40 series if the PL goes up again. Really are approaching the need for water cooling for the high end cards.

A couple more generations with power requirements increasing like this and we're all going to need to get 30A or 50A ran to our computer rooms and run 2000W+ PSUs

jaredbyoung

talon951
It'll be interesting to see how the 3090ti does if it actually gets released. If the 450w reference PL rumor is correct, what will the PL of the FTW3 be? 500? 550?

Also wondering how feasible air cooling will be for the 40 series if the PL goes up again. Really are approaching the need for water cooling for the high end cards.

A couple more generations with power requirements increasing like this and we're all going to need to get 30A or 50A ran to our computer rooms and run 2000W+ PSUs

... and all that with the worldwide energy crisis and efficiency increases going on and such.

Again I should note that this in not anyone's fault in particular, just a combination of things going on with GPUs themselves being the last wheel.

Beasthunt
Considering I've been in a que system for over a year I'd say there is a huge problem.

Yeah, let's go join the queue over at ASUS or MSI. Maybe even Gigabyte. Wait........ they don't have one? 

Michapolys
... and all that with the worldwide energy crisis and efficiency increases going on and such.

Again I should note that this in not anyone's fault in particular, just a combination of things going on with GPUs themselves being the last wheel.

People buy them. It's everyone's fault.

Just ordered a 3070Ti FTW for a fair price and I hope that it lasts longer than I can read here.
 
I wanted to Step-Up to a 3080 FTW3, but now I'm not so sure anymore. Do 3080 FTW's have more problems than 3070Ti? Do they run hotter and louder? 
And I mean... in the end we are using it for gaming, and that is a lifelong stress-test for any GPU. Happy that I chose a EVGA Card, because I've only heared good stuff about the community and service/support. :)

Aggreed. Imo, they push so much power in these 3000 series the design can not handle it. It does not need so much power. Users have to undervolt or set fan speed to 100% just to make their cards work how they should. I hear people say these card rock yolo yeah boiii 420 watts of power ofcourse u need to do those things because these cards are beastz.
Thats just silly imo. Other brands perform the same or better with less watts, smaller and more silent coolers and they even do that with 10c celcius less heat.

I am more bothered by the warranty than the hardware failures. I have an EVGA power supply with another 6 year warranty and I want to sell it but the one who will get it will not have a warranty at all.

In all the companies in the world the guarantee follows the object here the guarantee follows the original owner, big wrong.

LLLEFTERISIn all the companies in the world the guarantee follows the object here the guarantee follows the original owner, big wrong.

Warranties that follow the product are quite rare.  Maybe it an EU thing but it's almost unheard of in the US.  

nomoss

LLLEFTERISIn all the companies in the world the guarantee follows the object here the guarantee follows the original owner, big wrong.

Warranties that follow the product are quite rare.  Maybe it an EU thing but it's almost unheard of in the US.  

That is, if you buy a power supply that has a ten-year warranty and for some reason you want to sell after a month, you say I have a ten-year warranty, you who buy it do not have at all.

Maybe that's why used in America are so cheap because they lose their warranty.

Yes, in Europe I sell you my TV, I give you the proof of purchase, you have a normal all rest of the guarantee. I have gotten a lot of used things and I never had a problem because the receipt was not in my name.