2021/11/03 14:08:16
nomoss
nick_shl
nomossebay has buyer protections in place. Customer will also have the protections of the payment method they used in that case.
90 days for eBay purchase protection. 120 days for chargeback for credit card. As I said earlier, many people doesn't bother to register card right away. They can try to do it year later when(if) they will need to RMA it.

Caveat emptor.

An important lesson to always register your products right away while you have all receipts in hand and can look for the tiny labels with microscopic numbers without crawling into your pc case.
2021/11/03 14:13:33
the_Scarlet_one
nick_shl
nomossIf the seller refuses the refund, then the buyer can sue the seller.
How buyer can sue some seller on eBay if he know only eBay nickname? Shouldn't buyer find seller first? Since seller can faced criminal charges for selling stolen property I bet it will be impossible to identify him. So, buyer the only one who suffer in this situation - no card, no money.


Do you really, truly, actually think that eBay and PayPal don’t have the sellers information? Really? I honestly can’t tell if you are joking or serious at this point, because everything you have said this far shows that you know little to nothing about any of this process…
2021/11/03 14:29:38
toyboarder
nick_shl
ObscureEmpyreIt is illegal to purchase stolen goods.
I always thought that it is illegal to purchase stolen goods only if you know that it is stolen.
Life isn't fair: EVGA will get insurance, thief will sell card for profit, innocent people who will buy card will get no support at all.


Exactly, EVGA might not get money from the 'cards' but they're going to get reimbursed by insurance. The thieves will get their money, no problem. Literally the only one that suffers from this are people that buy, and again, you can't buy these cards through normal channels right now. If you wake up tomorrow, and your computer effing dies, the only way to get a card in a day or two is from a scalper. That's it, unless you want an AMD card for 2-3x MSRP I guess.
 
If this was a year ago and you could just go to BB or MC and buy a card @ MSRP, and it would be obvoius that a card below MSRP was probably 'shady', okay fine. But it's not, it's crazy times. I realize the situation EVGA is in, but from a scarce resource perspective this is kind of messed up.
2021/11/03 14:59:34
ki11in
Just offer 5 free 3080s for a arrest bounty and it will be solved by the end of the week 
2021/11/03 15:00:43
ObscureEmpyre
sh3nl0ng16
My question is: "How do we know that is it stolen or not if I buy a card on Ebay?"

If buying a 3000 series card from eBay, buy from someone who has a high positivity rating and more than just a couple of sales under their belt.
2021/11/03 15:24:02
kagato82
Hopefully the perps will be brought to justice! 
2021/11/03 15:25:00
nick_shl
the_Scarlet_oneDo you really, truly, actually think that eBay and PayPal don’t have the sellers information? Really? I honestly can’t tell if you are joking or serious at this point, because everything you have said this far shows that you know little to nothing about any of this process…
Probably identity theft and money mules doesn't exist in your world.


toyboarderLiterally the only one that suffers from this are people that buy
And most unfair thing: seller didn't adequately protect possessions, as result it was stolen. So, seller partially responsible for accident. Buyer doesn't know and can't know that he buying stolen goods off eBay/marketplace/Craigslist. But in the end goods will be returned to seller and buyer will left without anything. I talking in general how system works, not particular about EVGA.
2021/11/03 15:44:50
Hoggle
This is also a good reason to never pay cash for a graphics card and instead use something traceable when buying a used card. If you tried to register a card that was stolen and have the police knocking on your door it would be far easier to track the money trail if it's not cash.
2021/11/03 15:55:15
hitmano02
ask for serial numbers first?  Sure you can ask, you can ask anything you want .    But any seller with half of brain will turn you down.   How do I know you are not faming elite accounts with my cards?   How about you zelle me $1000 to prove you are not trying to scam for a SN ?    
2021/11/03 16:01:42
bill1024
A fool and his money are soon parted.

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