talon951
It's been shown by multiple people now that the card actually does reach 450w or even a bit more. GPUZ/HWINFO underreport the total power draw. This has been covered over and over.

And I've shown multiple times including just a few posts back in this thread that the difference in benchmark scores between the stock bios and the 1kw Galax is very small. 300-400 pts in PR.

i dont think thats true for everybody. my 3080ti ftw3 is showing 400 watt at 100% PL but it will not go above 108% PL in 3dmark. 
If you would be right, it would tell me that 108% is 112% in  Reality and even with 100% PL im over 400 watt. 
 
But on the other hand i found out that i can pretty easy hit 450 watt with this card showing in Gpu-z if i use OCCT stresstest.
This shows me also that this card is heavy throttling by over 50 watt if it hits 450. So i guess it does reach 450 also in benchmarks but we dont
see it as the intervall is to short.


Some numbers from my occt run default x1 setup with 450 W PL for 25 sec with a intervall of 0.1sec in GPU-Z so i got 250 samples. compaired to a curve optimized setting where i wouldnt stay under 450 W with a PL 112% ( i tried to find a setup with 440 watt average so i would be save below 450 Watt) (std=standard deviation)


 
 PL 450 / 450PL 450/440Max469,1 watt435,7 wattMin396,1 watt392,6 wattAverage446,7 watt427,8 wattStandard Deviation82,5663,31 
My theory is, that with this powerhorses its best to stay far away from powerlimit, as best es u can. U see standard deviation is much higher if u hit PL. At least you cut peaks al lot.  U see also u can hit 446 watt average readout from gpu-z with some heavy workload. I guess this holds ftw3 card back from hitting 450wat in "real World" benchmarks or games.  the second setting is not the best possible you can get closer to 450 PL but its long way to find the right setup for every case ( benchmark  game)
Thats what i thought before this test. you wont have a single setup for every usecase with this CUDA heavy cards.

All depends on the load but I've been seeing consistently above 400W on demanding games and benchmarks - 3dmark included.

ra773

talon951
It's been shown by multiple people now that the card actually does reach 450w or even a bit more. GPUZ/HWINFO underreport the total power draw. This has been covered over and over.

And I've shown multiple times including just a few posts back in this thread that the difference in benchmark scores between the stock bios and the 1kw Galax is very small. 300-400 pts in PR.

i dont think thats true for everybody. my 3080ti ftw3 is showing 400 watt at 100% PL but it will not go above 108% PL in 3dmark. 
If you would be right, it would tell me that 108% is 112% in  Reality and even with 100% PL im over 400 watt. 
 
But on the other hand i found out that i can pretty easy hit 450 watt with this card showing in Gpu-z if i use OCCT stresstest.
This shows me also that this card is heavy throttling by over 50 watt if it hits 450. So i guess it does reach 450 also in benchmarks but we dont
see it as the intervall is to short.

As I said, the power is reported low (by about 30w). So any power reading you see needs to have 30w or so added to get the true power draw. Yes this means if you see 450w reported, it's actually 480w. I verified this with a clamp meter to measure amps at each 8pin connector. The middle 8pin runs about 30w higher than reported. (yes meaning power balance is even worse than it appears)

talon951

ra773

talon951
It's been shown by multiple people now that the card actually does reach 450w or even a bit more. GPUZ/HWINFO underreport the total power draw. This has been covered over and over.

And I've shown multiple times including just a few posts back in this thread that the difference in benchmark scores between the stock bios and the 1kw Galax is very small. 300-400 pts in PR.

i dont think thats true for everybody. my 3080ti ftw3 is showing 400 watt at 100% PL but it will not go above 108% PL in 3dmark. 
If you would be right, it would tell me that 108% is 112% in  Reality and even with 100% PL im over 400 watt. 
 
But on the other hand i found out that i can pretty easy hit 450 watt with this card showing in Gpu-z if i use OCCT stresstest.
This shows me also that this card is heavy throttling by over 50 watt if it hits 450. So i guess it does reach 450 also in benchmarks but we dont
see it as the intervall is to short.

As I said, the power is reported low (by about 30w). So any power reading you see needs to have 30w or so added to get the true power draw. Yes this means if you see 450w reported, it's actually 480w. I verified this with a clamp meter to measure amps at each 8pin connector. The middle 8pin runs about 30w higher than reported. (yes meaning power balance is even worse than it appears)

im not so sure if its true for every GPU. 
i think its not true for my system. then i would have a 5800x beeing idle in benchmark as my whole system shows 580  watt at the wall. with 95% efficiency leaves me 550 watt Power out and only 100 watt for multiple ssds/ 32gb/ unify x570.  In idle my system draws 100 watt of which 34 watt is the gpu so thats gives me around additional CPU power in a benchmark to stay below 550 watt incl 450watt for my gpu. so i guess the readout is not 30 watt low here. 

I finally slapped the hybrid kit on my card... And I'm back in the top 100 again! My previous best on the stock air cooler was 15066. 15405 so far today and it's getting chillier outside 😂.

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1417587

This was my previous best TS on air as well. Haven't gotten to messing with that yet. 21110

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/25266717

 ok. 
how many watt did u put through that little evga card with you galax firmware. 
i`ll maybe be give it a try but waiting for a clamp meter. 
rather not burn my card with that 1k fw. 
 
bye

It says Galax right on the run report... And I wasnt too far off using the regular EVGA bios. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1415602
Stop whining.

That's a sneaky ninja edit.

Anyway, I know how electrical components work so I am okay running the Galax bios for the occasional bench session. I'm sorry you didn't pay attention in class. You probably wouldn't hit those numbers anyway since it seems you got a poor binned card.


Bye.

Shraf2k
It says Galax right on the run report... And I wasnt too far off using the regular EVGA bios. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1415602
Stop whining.

yes i found it later. 
pretty good. maybe win in silicon lottery.
my 3080ti ftw3 is throttleing from 400watt even with 450 PL thats why im asking. not getting more then 14400 here even fully custom water cooled. 
i guess that ftw3 FW / hardware combo sucks in some cases. 
looks like lots of people do have the same probs but no one really cares.

What sort of tricks can I do to improve my score? I'm still trying to dial in my OC but are there any "tricks" I can do to improve things by a few points? I'm just running the benchmark normally with AB and HWinfo running. Does closing programs effect the results? I'm on air so I'm not expecting fantastic scores. Any help appreciated. Thanks!
Port Royal
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1416266
Time Spy
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/25787842
 

bzabrown419
What sort of tricks can I do to improve my score? I'm still trying to dial in my OC but are there any "tricks" I can do to improve things by a few points? I'm just running the benchmark normally with AB and HWinfo running. Does closing programs effect the results? I'm on air so I'm not expecting fantastic scores. Any help appreciated. Thanks!
Port Royal
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1416266
Time Spy
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/25787842
 

Your PR score is right on the mark for your Card w moderate OC.
You will be able to add another +400 - 500 pts by pushing your OC to the absolute outer edge (borderline stability) along with some very very cool / cold ambient temps (if your PC is near window, open the window and let your room get cold).
With your room cold, turn on system...OC GPU and CPU and run benchmark while everything cold, will produce higher Avg Boost throughout.
Close all non essential running apps / services, kill gsync...turn off Rebar in BIOS.
nvcp set to high perfirmance. Windows set CPU to high performance...
 
I read that some are enabling Rebar within nv Inspector and inflating scores that way (as much as +300 pts) and some are flashing Card to Galaxy 1000w vbios.....I cant confirm these last 2 as haven't tried it, but I know my highest scores reflect my system pushed to the limits, so yeah when I see scores in PR in the 15.2K + those last 2 are likely the last steps.
I'm also on a very large Custom Loop.
 
For TS OC your CPU as high as you can get...this will inflate your CPU Score resulting in higher overall score
 
Have fun!