2021/02/13 17:07:31
kraade
What is the Problem?
2021/02/13 17:26:11
flg2010
Well.. just checked mine.. its not...  
 
2012 serial.. notify queue.. red lips..mid November
2021/02/13 17:40:00
ty_ger07
Feklar
I don't get it. All these 3090 FTW3 card use identical design and components. Why is there such a  difference in plug power usage between cards even when the power supply is not the issue. Bad design? Bad components? 


EVGA used a downgraded inexpensive analog voltage controller instead of a commonly-used more expensive digital voltage controller.  When they did that, it is possible that their implementation became more heavily reliant on resistor, capacitor, and or/inductor values for proper analog measurement; and they may have not adequately taken into account manufacturing tolerances for those supplementary components.  Additionally, if they cheapened out on the voltage controller, what's to say that they didn't decide to use cheaper supplementary components with looser manufacturing tolerances as well?  There are different standardized tiers in manufacturing tolerances, and you have to pay different prices for a higher tier component with better guaranteed tolerance.  Standard tolerances range  from +/- 20% of rated value for cheap components, to +/- 1% of rated value for expensive components.
Manufacturing tolerances -- and not adequately engineering with manufacturing tolerances in mind -- can easily explain why different cards read different values and some are more unbalanced than others.
 
mberohn
GPU PCIe +3.3V Input Power (est) is also holding firm at 0.336W. Is this too low, or is the HWiNFO64 showing the decimal in the wrong place?

As far as I know, these cards don't use the +3.3v power input, so I would expect the value indicated would be very low, and would simply be a measurement of error.
2021/02/13 19:08:41
Turbo-12R
sparetimepc
It's been a known problem with this model card, most people are having the same issue.



Don't you think the wording "most" is a bit inaccurate?  There are "some" having this problem, while others like myself do not have this problem.
 
To those who are having the issue, have you tried swapping the placement of the PSU cables to see if its always on #3?
2021/02/13 19:36:09
ty_ger07
Turbo-12R
To those who are having the issue, have you tried swapping the placement of the PSU cables to see if its always on #3?

Yes, they have.  The problem cards have the problem consistently until the card is either replaced or an unofficial BIOS is used.  I understand blaming users and systems, but, no offense, too much blame is being put on users.  I don't understand why users are being blamed when there is a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
2021/02/13 19:42:13
Turbo-12R
ty_ger07
 
Yes, they have.  The problem cards have the problem consistently until the card is either replaced or an unofficial BIOS is used.  I understand blaming users and systems, but, no offense, too much blame is being put on users.  I don't understand why users are being blamed when there is a mountain of evidence to the contrary.



Using the word "some" vs. "most" is not blaming.  It's merely being factual.  Not everyone has this issue.
2021/02/13 19:54:48
HeavyHemi
As far as I can tell, there is no problem. Each GPU is acting similarly with similar power draw percentage differences between the inputs. The BIOS controls the power draw of each input. Unless you test the GPU's in pretty much identical systems with the exact same settings and the exact same game or bench, you cannot tell anything. And of course, software readings are notoriously unreliable for much beyond 'idiot lights' for most part. Whatever software you're using is dependent upon the accuracy of the sensor it is supposedly reporting. Is this actually a design flaw or as intended?
Is what others are looking for is that both PCIe 8 pin are more drawing more equally? I seem to recall something about the design of the PWM where one input is treated more like a 75 watt 6 pin than a true 150 watt 8 pin input.
2021/02/13 19:55:36
ty_ger07
Turbo-12R
ty_ger07
 
Yes, they have.  The problem cards have the problem consistently until the card is either replaced or an unofficial BIOS is used.  I understand blaming users and systems, but, no offense, too much blame is being put on users.  I don't understand why users are being blamed when there is a mountain of evidence to the contrary.



Using the word "some" vs. "most" is not blaming.  It's merely being factual.  Not everyone has this issue.


Did I quote you about "some" vs "most"?  No.  I am not arguing that, am I?  There is no data.   There is no point in arguing that either way.
 
 
Read the part of your quote I was replying to.  It's not a cable or power supply issue.
2021/02/13 19:59:06
Turbo-12R
ty_ger07
 
Read the part of your quote I was replying to.  It's not a cable or power supply issue.




Regardless, I'm not sure where you get the "blaming" part.  I was asking a simple question.  Additionally, do you even have one of these cards?  Your profile suggests that you do not.
2021/02/13 20:05:16
ty_ger07
 
Ok, fine, not blaming.  Not "blaming", just resistant to believing that the cards could have a problem, neglecting to read people's posts where they have already stated that they have tried what you suggested, and appearing to question people's systems and the user's ability to assemble a system properly or troubleshoot effectively.
 
No, I don't own one of these cards.  I would never buy one of these cards.  They are bad.  Remember when I wrote "mountain of evidence"?

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