2021/07/08 23:37:28
bavor
I got my 11th place back on the 3DMark Port Royal Hall of Fame
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1119823
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/port+royal+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0
 
Its difficult because I have one 3090 that doesn't overclock well with the GPU, but the memory overclocks well.  The other 3090 has really awful memory that starts crashing and artifacting with a +900 MHz memory overlock with ambient cooling, but the GPU overclocks much higher than the card with good memory overclocks. I'm envious of all these people who I see getting +1400 MHz to +1600 MHz memory overclocks on Kingpin 3090s with ambient cooling.
2021/07/09 04:50:09
telehog
bavor
I got my 11th place back on the 3DMark Port Royal Hall of Fame
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1119823
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/port+royal+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0
 
Its difficult because I have one 3090 that doesn't overclock well with the GPU, but the memory overclocks well.  The other 3090 has really awful memory that starts crashing and artifacting with a +900 MHz memory overlock with ambient cooling, but the GPU overclocks much higher than the card with good memory overclocks. I'm envious of all these people who I see getting +1400 MHz to +1600 MHz memory overclocks on Kingpin 3090s with ambient cooling.


Great score ! Top 6 scores our LN2 !
2021/07/09 10:15:11
bavor
I'm still using my hacked together cheap cooling method of submerging a 280mm radiator in a cooler with water and ice.  I'm thinking about trying dry ice or a glycol chiller next.
2021/07/09 10:22:44
telehog
bavor
I'm still using my hacked together cheap cooling method of submerging a 280mm radiator in a cooler with water and ice.  I'm thinking about trying dry ice or a glycol chiller next.


Running  2 pumps with one regular water loop for cpu and other 280 mm rad in  water and ice for gpu's ?
2021/07/10 06:43:27
telehog
 105 F yesterday did this run at 74 f early am.  http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1122618
2021/07/10 16:36:40
telehog
bavor
I'm still using my hacked together cheap cooling method of submerging a 280mm radiator in a cooler with water and ice.  I'm thinking about trying dry ice or a glycol chiller next.


I'am copy cat for now! used 360mm in cooler with ice. Its 102 f here.  http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1124179 
 
2021/07/12 00:00:24
elbramso
to get you all back to earth, there are people (me) who received cards like this:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63693448
Ofc that is without 1000w bios and classified tool. Just straight +90core and +1700mem.
Just adding + to core with X1 or AB doenst help the card. I did not tweak a custom curve by now. 
I'll hopefully get a HC kit soon, so I can test this card in my loop but for now the performance is kinda meh...
 
BTW. when I compare the result with my ftw3 I can see that the KPE had higher average core and mem but still has a 450 pts lower score:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63725246
 
So, is my KPE just straight up bad or is it missing the 1000w bios + classified tool to hit clocks higher than 2130mhz??
 
Currently I'm loving everything about this card but it's performance^^
2021/07/12 04:03:54
telehog
elbramso
to get you all back to earth, there are people (me) who received cards like this:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63693448
Ofc that is without 1000w bios and classified tool. Just straight +90core and +1700mem.
Just adding + to core with X1 or AB doenst help the card. I did not tweak a custom curve by now. 
I'll hopefully get a HC kit soon, so I can test this card in my loop but for now the performance is kinda meh...
 
BTW. when I compare the result with my ftw3 I can see that the KPE had higher average core and mem but still has a 450 pts lower score:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63725246
 
So, is my KPE just straight up bad or is it missing the 1000w bios + classified tool to hit clocks higher than 2130mhz??
 
Currently I'm loving everything about this card but it's performance^^


Your Kingpin is running 6c higher temp over your ftw3. If ambient temp is the same for both ? could be thermal pads not in right place. 6c will make a big difference. HC waterblock  in a loop will make cooling better. I put all new thermal pads on mine and KPX paste, with 2 chunks of pads covering back plate with cut out for dip switches when I put HC block on. Also that cards memory overclocks great, but without cooling it will down clock the card. I would think if you slowed the memory down the heat would go down and your score will go up. The best OC is not alway make the best scores. I run XOC 1000 w rebar  vbios from Kingpin with classified tool. My  core clocks went up from 1200 + to 1500 + with new vbios .  You have to find the sweet spot for every card , they our all different. To get my card above 16000 in PR I slowed Dram timing down on motherboard from 4000 to 3200 and drop volts from 1.45 to 1.35 and drop the overclock on cpu from 5100 to 4800 and it ran faster PR scores.  
 
2021/07/12 04:30:56
elbramso
telehog
elbramso
to get you all back to earth, there are people (me) who received cards like this:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63693448
Ofc that is without 1000w bios and classified tool. Just straight +90core and +1700mem.
Just adding + to core with X1 or AB doenst help the card. I did not tweak a custom curve by now. 
I'll hopefully get a HC kit soon, so I can test this card in my loop but for now the performance is kinda meh...
 
BTW. when I compare the result with my ftw3 I can see that the KPE had higher average core and mem but still has a 450 pts lower score:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63725246
 
So, is my KPE just straight up bad or is it missing the 1000w bios + classified tool to hit clocks higher than 2130mhz??
 
Currently I'm loving everything about this card but it's performance^^


Your Kingpin is running 6c higher temp over your ftw3. If ambient temp is the same for both ? could be thermal pads not in right place. 6c will make a big difference. HC waterblock  in a loop will make cooling better. I put all new thermal pads on mine and KPX paste, with 2 chunks of pads covering back plate with cut out for dip switches when I put HC block on. Also that cards memory overclocks great, but without cooling it will down clock the card. I would think if you slowed the memory down the heat would go down and your score will go up. The best OC is not alway make the best scores. I run XOC 1000 w rebar  vbios from Kingpin with classified tool. My  core clocks went up from 1200 + to 1500 + with new vbios .  You have to find the sweet spot for every card , they our all different. To get my card above 16000 in PR I slowed Dram timing down on motherboard from 4000 to 3200 and drop volts from 1.45 to 1.35 and drop the overclock on cpu from 5100 to 4800 and it ran faster PR scores.  




That is an awesome answer, thanks mate.
The difference in temperature is easy to explain - my ftw3 is on my custom loop with active backplate cooling. I lowered the pump + rad fans to minimum, to simulate the bad thermals of the KPE ;-) In summer I have an ambient temp of ~ 25 degree celsius.
Might be interesting to see what my clocks look like when I set my mem to +0. And also I did not test the pre-installed LN2 bios.
 
I really feel the frustration of some KPE owner when they compare their cards to others - I mean, if my card struggles to hit 2130@1100v but others are able to safely drive with 2205@1.068v. I know golden sample exists but this gap is just a sign of bad binned chips
 
 
2021/07/12 05:29:14
bbevgacard
What is the 1000 watt bios with rebar version numbers in GPU-Z ?

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