2021/02/07 21:13:13
johnksss
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johnksss
Try something like 1.150/1.375/1.100 
+1250 mem
+165 Core
max slider for voltage.
max fans
 


No chance my card won't crash at those settings, even if it wanted to run it would probably want to pull more than the 520W LN2 bios allows. I appreciate the help but at this point I've resigned to the fact my card just isn't good. Will just try to enjoy it for gaming and try not to think about it too much.




So you tried those exact settings and your card crashed? I redid the screen shot as i forgot to put the classified tool in.


I've tried similar enough settings and done enough testing w/ my card to know it will crash. 1.2/1.36875/1.05 on LN2 with max sliders/fans should be more than enough to complete a run at 2145/2160 but nope, it crashes any time it boosts past 2130. I've tried lowering mem offset with no success. It's the core.


I am running push/pull NF-A12x25's on the radiator and this is with the window open with frigid winter air intake. The card just isn't good.


1.2 would have been to much as you would power throttle hard.
 
Okay, no problem. Was debating on buying your card, but you say it's a dud then i'm going to pass on it.


1.1 was a no-go as well.


You are making the right call, you don't want to buy my card trust me


Maybe
 
Dabadger84
johnksss
Try something like 1.1500/1.375/1.100 
+1250 mem
+165 Core
max slider for voltage.
max fans
520W vbios





Fixed da quote... and wait, shouldn't that be good for 15.4-15.5K?  What drivers is that with?
 
I'm still trying to think of other ways I could possible revive that 400-600pt deficit I'm seeing now.


Thanks brother! 1.150 is correct.
 
I'm running my 5950X at the moment and that is on the 520W version with a lot of things going on in the background. Just wanted to see if it was holding higher than 2130mhz on 520W vbios.
 
 
Also to add, my 10900K scored A 15728 max so far.
 
2021/02/07 21:20:22
Dabadger84
Meanwhile I'm over here getting 14.8k at settings that used to get 15k that are also settings that got 15.4k for one night going 
 

 
I guess a crazy, but logical step, would be to do a fresh install of Windows on another drive, and see how it performs on there with nothing but basic required drivers & 3DMark installed with Afterburner, Classified Tool & GPUz for monitoring/control eh?
 
I'm gonna snag the latest Windows 10 installer and get it started downloading since that'll take me about 2 hours to grab, plan on doin' that tomorrow maybe.
 
2021/02/07 21:32:25
johnksss
Dabadger84
Meanwhile I'm over here getting 14.8k at settings that used to get 15k that are also settings that got 15.4k for one night going 
 

 
I guess a crazy, but logical step, would be to do a fresh install of Windows on another drive, and see how it performs on there with nothing but basic required drivers & 3DMark installed with Afterburner, Classified Tool & GPUz for monitoring/control eh?
 
I'm gonna snag the latest Windows 10 installer and get it started downloading since that'll take me about 2 hours to grab, plan on doin' that tomorrow maybe.
 


That would be a good start or just do what I do.
1: Make sure to have all benching and monitor software in a folder on said drive
2: Make sure to copy the full driver cd to a folder on said drive
3: Boot your installer usb for windows 10.
4: Start the install process on the same partition as the original is. It will move all the files to a new folder called windows.old
5: Once it's done, go into windows.old and cut and paste your user files and folder into the new current user on c:
6: Do not unhide files and folders as you don't want anything from appdata folder
7: Pause windows updates before you install your nic drivers. And install the bare min just to get to the benching part.
run a quick test to see that you can actually run a higher fps start than you did with prior os. If so, then keep installing other stuff. More than likely you got hit with an update or nvcontrol panel acting funky or windows slow down....Just throwing out ideas as I have no clue what is going on with your setup. 
 
Def not a fan of new windows 10! They like to slow the cpu and add a lot of nonsense in the background. 
2021/02/07 21:42:09
Dabadger84
Yeah, that's exactly why I'm just gonna do a standalone bare-bones separate Windows install, see if that makes any difference - if it does, at least then I know it's SOMETHING to do with this install, and I can go through and install stuff one at a time to see what the issue is.
The only leechy-type stuff I have installed are the Thermaltake (which is required to set fan speed, then it can be closed) & Gigabyte RGB softwares, and I close both of those out (and kill them in task manager if they don't close out completely) before benchmarking... neither of those have been updated since long before I even got the Kingpin card, so I doubt they're the problem.
 
I also don't run much in the way of bloatware... I'm getting rid of Logitech gear, again, slowly but surely, to rid my system of that stuff, even though I doubt it's much of an issue, I don't have any AV software because I don't visit sketchy websites, just use the standard Windows defense stuff - I do have Malwarebytes, but I only have that running when it's running a scan because it's the free version so it doesn't have realtime protection anyway.  
I don't use the Steam version of 3DMark, I use the standalone, so Steam isn't causing the issue either.  I just don't get it.
 
The only thing I can think of is like you said, some dodgy Windows update or something FUBARed stuff, and the only way to (hopefully) fix that is a new install.
2021/02/07 21:47:57
johnksss
Dabadger84
Yeah, that's exactly why I'm just gonna do a standalone bare-bones separate Windows install, see if that makes any difference - if it does, at least then I know it's SOMETHING to do with this install, and I can go through and install stuff one at a time to see what the issue is.
The only leechy-type stuff I have installed are the Thermaltake (which is required to set fan speed, then it can be closed) & Gigabyte RGB softwares, and I close both of those out (and kill them in task manager if they don't close out completely) before benchmarking... neither of those have been updated since long before I even got the Kingpin card, so I doubt they're the problem.
 
I also don't run much in the way of bloatware... I'm getting rid of Logitech gear, again, slowly but surely, to rid my system of that stuff, even though I doubt it's much of an issue, I don't have any AV software because I don't visit sketchy websites, just use the standard Windows defense stuff - I do have Malwarebytes, but I only have that running when it's running a scan because it's the free version so it doesn't have realtime protection anyway.  
I don't use the Steam version of 3DMark, I use the standalone, so Steam isn't causing the issue either.  I just don't get it.
 
The only thing I can think of is like you said, some dodgy Windows update or something FUBARed stuff, and the only way to (hopefully) fix that is a new install.


I have found that to be the reason more than not. That and memory overclocking not working as intended. Also seems to be a major killer of performance.
 
Also, after you get the base installed and up in windows make sure to create system restore points. This can save you alot of time in not having to reinstall windows. Also once you get it working, you can also make an image of the drive. Although these images some times seem like they take longer to install than windows, drivers and software.
2021/02/08 00:16:10
Dabadger84
For giggles, I decided to do a clean boot, disabled everything non-Windows etc, aaaaand...
 
14822 at +150/+1250 - boost clock was 2175-2205, mostly 2190 throughout the test, so the clock itself doesn't seem to be the issue, but that score is absolute garbage for those clocks, even with Afterburner & GPUz open in the background, I used to get 14.9k at least on that before the 15.4ks ever happened.
So that means the fresh Install may not do any good, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow, gonna re-enable all the crap I disabled & do some games to get my mind off that crap for the morning.
2021/02/08 02:47:32
johnksss
 



2021/02/08 03:56:08
Dabadger84

It may say 32FPS but it didn't feel sluggish. lol  And yes, the shiny skin thing is a mod... Judy's face makeup messes it up though.  I personally think it's kinda fitting, desert city in a world like 2077 is set it, it's kinda fitting everyone look like they're sweaty all the time.  It is especially disturbing in close combat. :-D
 
Also, the Windows fresh install... was a gigantic waste of time.  Scored 13.6k at 5GHz CPU with the GPU at stock, so I didn't even bother testing the OC - I got 13.9k/14k at 5GHz CPU with the GPU at stock the day I hit the high scores.
Glad I only spent like an hour on that and most of that was waiting on 3DMark to update because the download of it I have is kinda outdated, forgot to backup my current install of it so I could just copy-pasta after initial install of 3DMark.
2021/02/08 04:36:36
evga202102
awesome score! it is very hard to get 15000+ points
2021/02/08 12:10:02
johnksss
Dabadger84

It may say 32FPS but it didn't feel sluggish. lol  And yes, the shiny skin thing is a mod... Judy's face makeup messes it up though.  I personally think it's kinda fitting, desert city in a world like 2077 is set it, it's kinda fitting everyone look like they're sweaty all the time.  It is especially disturbing in close combat. :-D
 
Also, the Windows fresh install... was a gigantic waste of time.  Scored 13.6k at 5GHz CPU with the GPU at stock, so I didn't even bother testing the OC - I got 13.9k/14k at 5GHz CPU with the GPU at stock the day I hit the high scores.
Glad I only spent like an hour on that and most of that was waiting on 3DMark to update because the download of it I have is kinda outdated, forgot to backup my current install of it so I could just copy-pasta after initial install of 3DMark.


My fresh windows install and I scored a 13.1K so can't really say that is indicative of the final outcome, but I will say it was pretty damn discouraging though. had I not known that it was capable of 17K, i might feel the same way.

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