2020/12/26 19:40:29
jspataro99
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/697667

I’m up to 14887 after cracking the window and letting the subzero temps in until my feet went numb. It looks like this is as high as I can get my Kingpin to go on the LN2 BIOS with a 9900KS without messing with the dip switches. +125 GPU +1400 MEM.
2020/12/26 20:33:51
tresnugget
Carmen813
kooncey
Carmen813
kooncey
ran it under normal bios at 5.2 and got a score of 14066 with average temp at 43C, again although I do have a push\pull config on the rad. this was also with no core clock, no mem clock or any tool tweaking just plan stock run in push/pull.


Nice. My temperatures are more in 50s (Florida). Going to see how I do with my CPU not overclocked. I've got the Lian Li Dynamic XL coming this week, which should help, my current case (Fractal Design S2 Vision) has pretty poor airflow to the GPU. For those with the Dynamic XL, should I set the Kingpin radiator as the side intake, or top exhaust? I also have a 360mm EKBW AIO cooling my 9900k. 




I have mine at the bottom.
https://imgur.com/rVXCBaB



Interesting. I get about 14500 at 150/750. 175 crashed. Wouldn't radiator at bottom run risk of air in pump?

The card comes with a diagram specifically saying not to mount it on the bottom for that very reason although if the pump isn't making a bunch of noise maybe it's full enough to not matter. I wouldn't trust it, though, with how noisy my pump was the first few minutes there's definitely some air in there. Gamers Nexus showed how much air got into their pump when they mounted there's at the bottom and it barely got any water at all.
2020/12/26 20:37:26
alpharius194
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/697395
15485 on the 520w bios
finally got cold here and put it against the window. Not sure why but my card can do PR with memory at 1700 but cant get the clock stable over 165 even if I drop the memory significantly. Or on the occasions it is stable the score is lower sometimes a few thousand. 
2020/12/26 21:07:55
kooncey
tresnugget
Carmen813
kooncey
Carmen813
kooncey
ran it under normal bios at 5.2 and got a score of 14066 with average temp at 43C, again although I do have a push\pull config on the rad. this was also with no core clock, no mem clock or any tool tweaking just plan stock run in push/pull.


Nice. My temperatures are more in 50s (Florida). Going to see how I do with my CPU not overclocked. I've got the Lian Li Dynamic XL coming this week, which should help, my current case (Fractal Design S2 Vision) has pretty poor airflow to the GPU. For those with the Dynamic XL, should I set the Kingpin radiator as the side intake, or top exhaust? I also have a 360mm EKBW AIO cooling my 9900k. 




I have mine at the bottom.
https://imgur.com/rVXCBaB



Interesting. I get about 14500 at 150/750. 175 crashed. Wouldn't radiator at bottom run risk of air in pump?

The card comes with a diagram specifically saying not to mount it on the bottom for that very reason although if the pump isn't making a bunch of noise maybe it's full enough to not matter. I wouldn't trust it, though, with how noisy my pump was the first few minutes there's definitely some air in there. Gamers Nexus showed how much air got into their pump when they mounted there's at the bottom and it barely got any water at all.

I saw that video, in my case there is no other way around it without taking my custom CPU loop completely out. I have two rads cooling it. Hopefully we have waterblocks for the kingpin soon. If worse comes, I thought about doing an expanded aio to my d5 pump in my custom loop with the aio pump with it. I watched a video of someone doing so, have not done something like that myself since at that point you are better off doing a custom loop. I'll have to test this method out myself with an old 980 hybrid card before even thinking about doing so. Yes, I know my warranty will be out the window if I did so, but it is anyway voided since i emailed Vince for the xoc bios way long before it was leaked out.
2020/12/26 21:21:05
Solar Trans
Carmen813
kooncey
ran it under normal bios at 5.2 and got a score of 14066 with average temp at 43C, again although I do have a push\pull config on the rad. this was also with no core clock, no mem clock or any tool tweaking just plan stock run in push/pull.


Nice. My temperatures are more in 50s (Florida). Going to see how I do with my CPU not overclocked. I've got the Lian Li Dynamic XL coming this week, which should help, my current case (Fractal Design S2 Vision) has pretty poor airflow to the GPU. For those with the Dynamic XL, should I set the Kingpin radiator as the side intake, or top exhaust? I also have a 360mm EKBW AIO cooling my 9900k. 




I have an o11 XL and I have my Kingpin on the side intake (hoses coming out the bottom. Push/pull, radiator and 2nd set of fans in the rear compartment)), and my 360mm AIO as a top intake (both intakes filtered). Exhausts are unfiltered at at the rear+bottom. Best temps I have been able to get so far. Remember that the “heat rises” idea is completely out the window when dealing with fans and forced airflow, so this ensures both my OCed CPU and OCed GPU have cool air. I recommend trying this yourself!
2020/12/26 22:05:00
JonnyVee
Solar Trans
Carmen813
Nice. My temperatures are more in 50s (Florida). Going to see how I do with my CPU not overclocked. I've got the Lian Li Dynamic XL coming this week, which should help, my current case (Fractal Design S2 Vision) has pretty poor airflow to the GPU. For those with the Dynamic XL, should I set the Kingpin radiator as the side intake, or top exhaust? I also have a 360mm EKBW AIO cooling my 9900k. 



I have an o11 XL and I have my Kingpin on the side intake (hoses coming out the bottom. Push/pull, radiator and 2nd set of fans in the rear compartment)), and my 360mm AIO as a top intake (both intakes filtered). Exhausts are unfiltered at at the rear+bottom. Best temps I have been able to get so far. Remember that the “heat rises” idea is completely out the window when dealing with fans and forced airflow, so this ensures both my OCed CPU and OCed GPU have cool air. I recommend trying this yourself!

 
LOL. I’m in the exact same boat as Carman813. I have a Dynamic XL sitting in the room to replace my Phanteks Evolv X - And I’m debating side or top for the KPE rad, plus I have a 360mm CPU rad cooler to consider. I’ll have to give this arrangement a thought.



 
 
2020/12/26 22:38:30
Carmen813
Solar Trans
Carmen813
kooncey
ran it under normal bios at 5.2 and got a score of 14066 with average temp at 43C, again although I do have a push\pull config on the rad. this was also with no core clock, no mem clock or any tool tweaking just plan stock run in push/pull.


Nice. My temperatures are more in 50s (Florida). Going to see how I do with my CPU not overclocked. I've got the Lian Li Dynamic XL coming this week, which should help, my current case (Fractal Design S2 Vision) has pretty poor airflow to the GPU. For those with the Dynamic XL, should I set the Kingpin radiator as the side intake, or top exhaust? I also have a 360mm EKBW AIO cooling my 9900k. 




I have an o11 XL and I have my Kingpin on the side intake (hoses coming out the bottom. Push/pull, radiator and 2nd set of fans in the rear compartment)), and my 360mm AIO as a top intake (both intakes filtered). Exhausts are unfiltered at at the rear+bottom. Best temps I have been able to get so far. Remember that the “heat rises” idea is completely out the window when dealing with fans and forced airflow, so this ensures both my OCed CPU and OCed GPU have cool air. I recommend trying this yourself!

Hmm I may try this. I have two add on cards (Nu Audio Pro, Capture Card) underneath my GPU so I'm not sure if that would work as well (its kind of a dead zone). My thinking was side as intake, top as exhaust, bottom as intake, and rear as intake.
2020/12/26 22:56:16
jspataro99
Just curious and sorry if this is a dumb question. Is it safe to tweak the dip switches on the LN2 BIOS with the stock cooler, not using any classy or NVIDIA tools but just with maxing out the voltage and power sliders in PX1? I assume all the normal protections are in place in that scenario.
2020/12/26 23:07:38
Solar Trans
Carmen813
Solar Trans
Carmen813
kooncey
ran it under normal bios at 5.2 and got a score of 14066 with average temp at 43C, again although I do have a push\pull config on the rad. this was also with no core clock, no mem clock or any tool tweaking just plan stock run in push/pull.


Nice. My temperatures are more in 50s (Florida). Going to see how I do with my CPU not overclocked. I've got the Lian Li Dynamic XL coming this week, which should help, my current case (Fractal Design S2 Vision) has pretty poor airflow to the GPU. For those with the Dynamic XL, should I set the Kingpin radiator as the side intake, or top exhaust? I also have a 360mm EKBW AIO cooling my 9900k. 




I have an o11 XL and I have my Kingpin on the side intake (hoses coming out the bottom. Push/pull, radiator and 2nd set of fans in the rear compartment)), and my 360mm AIO as a top intake (both intakes filtered). Exhausts are unfiltered at at the rear+bottom. Best temps I have been able to get so far. Remember that the “heat rises” idea is completely out the window when dealing with fans and forced airflow, so this ensures both my OCed CPU and OCed GPU have cool air. I recommend trying this yourself!

Hmm I may try this. I have two add on cards (Nu Audio Pro, Capture Card) underneath my GPU so I'm not sure if that would work as well (its kind of a dead zone). My thinking was side as intake, top as exhaust, bottom as intake, and rear as intake.


The only 2 parts of your system that benefit from cold air are the CPU and GPU. The warmer air coming through your radiators into the case still cools passively cooled components plenty well, as that air is still much cooler than the temperatures of those components (a GPU cares about a few degrees of temperature, a capture card, not so much).

With 2 radiators in an o11 XL, I can’t think of a use case that would benefit from having warm air pass through your CPU or GPU radiator. The most important thing is to balance intake and exhaust airflow, and 6 intakes w/ restrictive radiators+filters plus 4 exhaust and the Kingpin VRM fan (which exhausts on its own) means for very balanced airflow and the best temperatures you can get out of this case (sans perhaps bottom and top intakes, side+rear exhaust, but then the Kingpin AIO pump is the highest point in the loop, and we don’t want that).

If you’re not convinced, think really hard as to why you might want to force your CPU or AIO to be an exhaust. It’s probably not worth it!
2020/12/27 06:04:51
Carmen813
Solar Trans
Carmen813
Solar Trans
Carmen813
kooncey
ran it under normal bios at 5.2 and got a score of 14066 with average temp at 43C, again although I do have a push\pull config on the rad. this was also with no core clock, no mem clock or any tool tweaking just plan stock run in push/pull.


Nice. My temperatures are more in 50s (Florida). Going to see how I do with my CPU not overclocked. I've got the Lian Li Dynamic XL coming this week, which should help, my current case (Fractal Design S2 Vision) has pretty poor airflow to the GPU. For those with the Dynamic XL, should I set the Kingpin radiator as the side intake, or top exhaust? I also have a 360mm EKBW AIO cooling my 9900k. 




I have an o11 XL and I have my Kingpin on the side intake (hoses coming out the bottom. Push/pull, radiator and 2nd set of fans in the rear compartment)), and my 360mm AIO as a top intake (both intakes filtered). Exhausts are unfiltered at at the rear+bottom. Best temps I have been able to get so far. Remember that the “heat rises” idea is completely out the window when dealing with fans and forced airflow, so this ensures both my OCed CPU and OCed GPU have cool air. I recommend trying this yourself!

Hmm I may try this. I have two add on cards (Nu Audio Pro, Capture Card) underneath my GPU so I'm not sure if that would work as well (its kind of a dead zone). My thinking was side as intake, top as exhaust, bottom as intake, and rear as intake.


The only 2 parts of your system that benefit from cold air are the CPU and GPU. The warmer air coming through your radiators into the case still cools passively cooled components plenty well, as that air is still much cooler than the temperatures of those components (a GPU cares about a few degrees of temperature, a capture card, not so much).

With 2 radiators in an o11 XL, I can’t think of a use case that would benefit from having warm air pass through your CPU or GPU radiator. The most important thing is to balance intake and exhaust airflow, and 6 intakes w/ restrictive radiators+filters plus 4 exhaust and the Kingpin VRM fan (which exhausts on its own) means for very balanced airflow and the best temperatures you can get out of this case (sans perhaps bottom and top intakes, side+rear exhaust, but then the Kingpin AIO pump is the highest point in the loop, and we don’t want that).

If you’re not convinced, think really hard as to why you might want to force your CPU or AIO to be an exhaust. It’s probably not worth it!


Gotcha. The logic of cool aid for each makes sense to me. I am running both radiators in push pull of that alters anything. Only real reason I was thinking exhaust on the kingpin is the amount of heat that radiator manages going into the system.

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