2022/03/16 13:02:21
jaredbyoung
zippytek
jaredbyoung
Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 
2022/03/17 22:22:52
famich
Mr. Fox
So, I took apart the 3090 KPE Hydro Copper to clean the inside of it today. It was a terrible pain in the butt; almost as horrible as the 2080 Ti FTW3 Hydro Copper was. It really feels like EVGA does this on purpose to keep people from taking them apart, which makes no sense at all. People need to be able to maintain the products they buy and taking apart a waterblock for cleaning is normal maintenance. When I needed to clean the 2080 Ti FTW3 Hydro Copper block a second time, I learned from EVGA that they did not sell replacement o-rings for Hydro Copper blocks, so I sold it and replaced it with an EKWB GPU block. Unfortunately, the Kingpin model has only two options available, both difficult to acquire because of limited availability and both overpriced.
 
Getting the o-ring back in place was a complete nightmare. The plexi has a shallow groove for it and it tries to pop out of the groove. The first time I reassembled it and leak-tested it had a leak because the o-ring slipped a tiny bit. Everything turned out fine in the end, but it was far more hassle than it should have been. This makes me angry, and causes me to think it would be best to avoid buying enthusiast grade video cards in the future and stick with less expensive generic reference PCB GPUs with multiple waterblock options and just shunt mod and voltage mod them for better overclocking.
 
 




 
Amen to that.Useless product.
2022/03/18 06:38:52
zippytek
jaredbyoungAnd I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 



it is absolutely unreasonable. just being in line for something *whenever* doesn't give any sort of guarantee of service. a wise one once said "ya snooze ya lose" and that very much applies here. good news is everyone will have another chance to queue at exactly the same time for new skus, assuming they keep the queue system in place for 4000 series.
 
my assumption is there won't be much actual demand for the 3090Ti, but the queue will fill and close instantly bc scalpers
2022/03/18 13:44:21
kraade
enewt
DZelmer
So is this the end of the 3090 kpe? No posts in over a month!



Definitely feels like it is the end of the 3090 Hybrid K|NGP|N.  I am still holding on to faint hope for the Hydro Copper....


I am several behind you but it is not looking good, been dry a while and when they had the last dump of Hybrids , I was surprised there was 0 HC in that bunch
2022/03/20 23:03:49
ExcaliburXVII
jaredbyoung
zippytek
jaredbyoung
Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 


I personally don't think they will but I think they should, specifically for those who were unable to get either Kingpin. Just my unrequested two cents.
2022/03/21 04:12:03
kram36
jaredbyoung
zippytek
jaredbyoung
Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 


I think I would want to see the price of the card before I got moved to it, unless EVGA would want to honor the 3090 Kingpin price to the 3090 Ti Kingpin.
2022/03/21 10:30:46
enewt
kram36
jaredbyoung
zippytek
jaredbyoung
Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 


I think I would want to see the price of the card before I got moved to it, unless EVGA would want to honor the 3090 Kingpin price to the 3090 Ti Kingpin.



Neither is likely to happen. To the extent it gets a queue at all, it will be a Queue 3.0 or 3.1 queue and not one that operates under the Queue 2.1 rules.  And EVGA will be charged a premium by NVIDIA for those boards…and that will be passed on to the consumer.   
2022/03/21 13:45:56
ExcaliburXVII
enewt
kram36
jaredbyoung
zippytek
jaredbyoung
Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 


I think I would want to see the price of the card before I got moved to it, unless EVGA would want to honor the 3090 Kingpin price to the 3090 Ti Kingpin.



Neither is likely to happen. To the extent it gets a queue at all, it will be a Queue 3.0 or 3.1 queue and not one that operates under the Queue 2.1 rules.  And EVGA will be charged a premium by NVIDIA for those boards…and that will be passed on to the consumer.   


There's no way they would price match, and even I think that's an unreasonable ask. I imagine it'd be like the switch to LHR cards, though, with the option to opt out. Although buying a previous generation Kingpin seems rather pointless.
2022/03/21 16:30:23
nomoss
I don’t see any real point of the 3090Ti Kingpin. It won’t be binned any better than the 3090KPE was. The price will be insane. And it will be outclassed by the 4070.
2022/03/22 06:14:39
zippytek
nomoss
I don’t see any real point of the 3090Ti Kingpin. It won’t be binned any better than the 3090KPE was. The price will be insane. And it will be outclassed by the 4070.



that's fine. it's not for you and that's ok. people said the same thing about the 3090 in general, and then most of them scooped them up when they couldn't get a 3080 or 3070 or 3060Ti or 3060

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