MarlowX1m
 
 
The 3rd 8-pin according to this information was supposed to be a 6-pin and 8-pin was a last minute change. Might explain why we are are limited to about 400w and how aggressive the firmware is throttling trying to stop it from jumping to higher frequencies . Apparently there is a transient response problem

 
Certinally would explain why now that's i'm not bouncing off the power limiter on the MSI bios (and able to maintain a fixed voltage) all my crashing issues went away while overclocked.
I've half a mind to RMA my card due to the inabilty manage its power draw, but i'm not sure the issue is actually resolved.. That and Australia like EU are getting pretty well ignored supply wise, it'll probably be a 3 month wait.
 
I've got another one on order for a mate, he won't run above stock setting so if his hits 440+ at 1.1v i'll swap my block across. 
Certinally all very interesting though.. Seems like a lot of cost cutting is starting to bite them; It's never a good thing when Accountants get in charge of design.

For people who are having weak overclocks; try manually moving *only* the high end of the curve to +XXX so that the card boosts more at the top, less in the middle, and none around idle.

My 3080 FE was solid with pretty high overclocks while gaming, but would lock up and crash while browsing the web or otherwise light tasks.

So I set it up as described above. I now game between 2055 and 2070 and the card completely throttles down to no OC at all when not gaming.

I can't remember the hotkey combo that allows for moving only one end of the curve at a time, but there are a bunch of YT vids explaining the hotkeys.

I just had the second bios update fro my MSI board. The first one said support for resizable bar.
The second update said Support Re-size BAR function to enhance GPU performance including the Nvidia GeForce RTX 3000 series and others.
Any word on the XOC bios ? Soon ?

Drwaffles

MarlowX1m
 
 
The 3rd 8-pin according to this information was supposed to be a 6-pin and 8-pin was a last minute change. Might explain why we are are limited to about 400w and how aggressive the firmware is throttling trying to stop it from jumping to higher frequencies . Apparently there is a transient response problem

 
Certinally would explain why now that's i'm not bouncing off the power limiter on the MSI bios (and able to maintain a fixed voltage) all my crashing issues went away while overclocked.
I've half a mind to RMA my card due to the inabilty manage its power draw, but i'm not sure the issue is actually resolved.. That and Australia like EU are getting pretty well ignored supply wise, it'll probably be a 3 month wait.
 
I've got another one on order for a mate, he won't run above stock setting so if his hits 440+ at 1.1v i'll swap my block across. 
Certinally all very interesting though.. Seems like a lot of cost cutting is starting to bite them; It's never a good thing when Accountants get in charge of design.

Well a quick google search tells us that.

8-pin = 150w - 1st 8Pin
8-pin = 150w - 2nd 8pin
6-pin = 75w - 3rd "8-pin"
PCIe Slot = 50w

The configured bios currently is then a total of 150+150+75+50=425w (Probably 400w for safety margin)

From your data 400w * 1.08 (TDP) = 432w (Probably lower due to safety margins)

I have attached what was listed on the MCU firmware courtesy of @bmgjet

So perhaps their firmware or hardware is still configured for an additional 6-pin not 8-pin.

akafats
I just had the second bios update fro my MSI board. The first one said support for resizable bar.
The second update said Support Re-size BAR function to enhance GPU performance including the Nvidia GeForce RTX 3000 series and others.
Any word on the XOC bios ? Soon ?

We don't know. The 3060 will have it on release on the 25th, meaning the driver support for it will be there prior to its release at least. If history is any indicator, the driver will be out the same day the 3060 releases. I'd probably say if the BIOS for existing cards isn't out around the same time, we'll have them by the end of March.

on a OC test yesterday I saw 129w on one 132 on 2 and 118 on 3

Drwaffles

cennis2018
What are your serial number first 4 digits? For people who can/cannot reach 450W?
 
From the 3090 forums,
I am seeing the 2119 batch reaches 500W and 2012 batch not being able to reach 500W
 

2014..
Wonder if it's a firmware issue or they physically made revisions/difference in the card?

My gut feeling (No evidence) is it's a load balancing issue.
My pcie power draw would always max out at 45w on XOC.
The difference between that and 75w would being me up from my 415w limit to the 445 it should be.
Granted might just be coincidence..

 
I have 2014 as well, i can't go above 380W

You guys using Afterburner or Precision X1 for overclock?

Afterburner..
Tried X1 but the overlay doesn't work half the time and setting a voltage frequency curve is clunkier than it should be.
Overlay is the main reason though, and I love RTSS frame limiter, gives dead consistent frametimes if setup right.

Was looking at products to boost power to pci-e slot. Found this https://www.evga.com/articles/00600/
 
Evga Power Booster uses a molex to pci-e. Not sure if it would help if you have many pci-e devices plugged in.
I think this may help with the red light error since the mcu check needs 12v and deviating lower will cause a no post.