2020/12/11 14:23:31
ngaugler
KingEngineRevUp
ngaugler
I'm still trying to figure out if I have a bad card.  Using the new BIOS has a negative impact on the card.  The card stays well below the 80C limit just fine.  The performance when using 450W is just pure garbage.  I know its hitting the 450W as I can see it in GPU-Z.  If I reduce the power limit back to 105% or even 100% I get better performance but the limit is PWR.  Either way, I get nowhere near the performance anyone else is getting on 100% or 117% power settings.  Is the card internals just bad? Should I RMA this one?


No you can be losing performance due to hear, there are bonus boost clocks that are lost as temperature rises.

Check out TPU review of the 3080 FE, they graph and show you this.

That's what doesn't add up.  It's not generating the heat.  Temperatures stay reasonable.
2020/12/11 18:07:25
SeanDude05
AudiPete
So EVGA any chance of a 3080 ftw3 lower tdp bios like a 320w with oc fan curve so my card doesn't hit 80+ temps, I know the card is safe at these temps but mine is not stable. I've had to flash a lower 350w msi bios, The heatsink and fan are not fit for purpose on these cards.  


It’s not the heatsink that’s the problem, it’s your case and airflow. Besides, if you want lower tdp you should’ve just gotten a 3070 or 3060 Ti
2020/12/11 19:26:02
Drwaffles
Am I missing something? AFAIK you don't need a bios to lower the TDP, just set the power limit accordingly with afterburner or PX.
2020/12/11 20:59:18
Ethyriel_
I am running without any extra voltage, and have managed to get it stable at 2100 by changing... pretty much nothing, but it's performing statistically worse. 300 points lower in Time Spy, even if I let it cool down to 22C before starting the bench. I have the run that scored 19k saved and it was boosted lower during the run (Stable at 2070), but scored much higher. Still no idea what's causing this inconsistency. 
2020/12/11 21:02:17
altra
Is there going to be a BIOS update for those of us that got the hybrid kit for 3080 ftw3 ultra? My radiator fans are doing some weird stuff...ramps up and down even though I set it at a constant speed. 
2020/12/11 21:38:21
Cableguy696969
Edit: ignore post
2020/12/11 23:46:08
AudiPete
Drwaffles
Am I missing something? AFAIK you don't need a bios to lower the TDP, just set the power limit accordingly with afterburner or PX.

Yep your right works fine now thanks, makes total sense and I just didn't think to lower the slider.. I will just run it like this now as long as it's stable until I can get a water block.
2020/12/12 16:30:45
jamexr
altra
Is there going to be a BIOS update for those of us that got the hybrid kit for 3080 ftw3 ultra? My radiator fans are doing some weird stuff...ramps up and down even though I set it at a constant speed. 


Did you try flashing the hybrid bios on it? It's on the OP...
2020/12/12 16:39:59
altra
jamexr
altra
Is there going to be a BIOS update for those of us that got the hybrid kit for 3080 ftw3 ultra? My radiator fans are doing some weird stuff...ramps up and down even though I set it at a constant speed. 


Did you try flashing the hybrid bios on it? It's on the OP...



Yea I did. Did not work, says my card is incompatible. Probably because it was expecting a 3080 Hybrid to flash the XOC bios. 
2020/12/12 23:46:55
Kylearan
Ethyriel_
I am running without any extra voltage, and have managed to get it stable at 2100 by changing... pretty much nothing, but it's performing statistically worse. 300 points lower in Time Spy, even if I let it cool down to 22C before starting the bench. I have the run that scored 19k saved and it was boosted lower during the run (Stable at 2070), but scored much higher. Still no idea what's causing this inconsistency. 


 
It's windows.  I've seen this behavior on a shunt modded 3090 FE that never even touched the power limit.  You can tell if your score is going to be higher or lower by looking at the first 3 seconds of Port Royal.  Once you've run PR enough times, you will know within 3 seconds if it's going to be a low or high scoring run.
 
You can also look at a Kill-A-Watt and see this behavior.  During lower scoring runs, your card will be pulling less watts from the wall, even if it's never downclocking or hitting the power limit.  During higher scoring runs, you will pull more power.  
 
Another user said that his scores varied by as much as 1,000 points.  And he was only able to fix this by completely reinstalling windows.
One thing you can try to do is to delete the shader cache in C:\program data\Nvidia Corporation\NVCache or something like that (First, set NVCP to NOT use the shader cache, then close all programs and delete the folder), then have the games rebuild the shader cache, but I have no idea if that does anything.

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