2020/12/09 04:37:22
Drwaffles
Need still some assistance guys with my 3080FTW3, I'm still being power limited at 412-420w It's pretty inconsistent even with the power sliders set to 118% and GPU usage at 100% in the new MC RTX full release (Most games this happens)
Power draws are hovering around as follows
PCIE:40w
Pins 1-3: 125w 145w 110w
 
Due to the 1000 polling rate it's showed 1.1v, but due to the PL it was dropping back.
 
Doesn't crash or anything, just starts throttling voltage and clocks
PSU is a Be quiet SP11 850W with 3 seperate connectors from the GPU to the PSU.
Phantex Vertical GPU mount (Which I wouldn't think would be a wattage limitation given the GPU itself is power throttling)
 
I'm normally not one for physical mods, but it's irritating that it's droping back early..
Makes me want to do shunt mods to make it reach what it actually should.
 
Is it power limiting due to the 145w on that single connector? And if so, what's with the balancing.
 

2020/12/09 04:46:45
AudiPete
Drwaffles
Need still some assistance guys with my 3080FTW3, I'm still being power limited at 412-420w It's pretty inconsistent even with the power sliders set to 118% and GPU usage at 100% in the new MC RTX full release (Most games this happens)
Power draws are hovering around as follows
PCIE:40w
Pins 1-3: 125w 145w 110w
 
Due to the 1000 polling rate it's showed 1.1v, but due to the PL it was dropping back.
 
Doesn't crash or anything, just starts throttling voltage and clocks
PSU is a Be quiet SP11 850W with 3 seperate connectors from the GPU to the PSU.
Phantex Vertical GPU mount (Which I wouldn't think would be a wattage limitation given the GPU itself is power throttling)
 
I'm normally not one for physical mods, but it's irritating that it's droping back early..
Makes me want to do shunt mods to make it reach what it actually should.
 





It's just temp bud.. I don't have a waterblock for the 3080 yet so I can't test, but my old msi 2070 super started to reduce clocks at 30c, and limit power at over 60c, your card will be limiting power to get temps down. 450w bios should be water cooled imo. I used to hit 2295mhz core on that 2070 super cracking card..
2020/12/09 05:07:24
Drwaffles
Appreciate the prompt reply!
Makes sense, just thought that would have come up as a thermal limiter.. Especially with the temp target slider maxed out.

I'll try and test it from stone cold and see if it power limits when it's still in the 50's, see if it that unleashes it.
I knew they dropped clock bins with temp, but didn't think they started winding the power limits back.

I've ordered my EK block, so I guess we'll see in Jan when it's hopefully here :)
2020/12/09 07:51:23
Bradypan
Drwaffles
Appreciate the prompt reply!
Makes sense, just thought that would have come up as a thermal limiter.. Especially with the temp target slider maxed out.

I'll try and test it from stone cold and see if it power limits when it's still in the 50's, see if it that unleashes it.
I knew they dropped clock bins with temp, but didn't think they started winding the power limits back.

I've ordered my EK block, so I guess we'll see in Jan when it's hopefully here :)


I'm experiencing the exact same behavior, limiting at around 420-430W, with 145W from Pin 2 and less from the other two.  It should not come up as a power limit if it is due to temperature, because I'm experiencing this on a 3080 FTW Hybrid, which under load (Port Royal) is at 52 C.
2020/12/09 08:29:37
AudiPete
Bradypan
Drwaffles
Appreciate the prompt reply!
Makes sense, just thought that would have come up as a thermal limiter.. Especially with the temp target slider maxed out.

I'll try and test it from stone cold and see if it power limits when it's still in the 50's, see if it that unleashes it.
I knew they dropped clock bins with temp, but didn't think they started winding the power limits back.

I've ordered my EK block, so I guess we'll see in Jan when it's hopefully here :)


I'm experiencing the exact same behavior, limiting at around 420-430W, with 145W from Pin 2 and less from the other two.  It should not come up as a power limit if it is due to temperature, because I'm experiencing this on a 3080 FTW Hybrid, which under load (Port Royal) is at 52 C.


Your still going to hit the power limit no matter what, unless your at real low temps, power limit will stop the card boosting too high and try and hold it at stable clocks. Mine power limits at around 320w in some games, but I use a 350w bios. This forum is a nightmare all this approval nonsense..  It's not jus evga cards all the 3080s power limit..
2020/12/09 09:06:05
Ethyriel_
Does this change anything other than the power limit? After updating, I've been running into unpredictable behavior while boosting. Previously, the card would go to 2070MHz on core and stay there. Now, with an identical offset, it jumps to 2100 (sometimes causing a crash), then decays across the course of a benchmark to as low as 2025 despite being well below 70C on the die. 

Note: This occurs even if I reduce the power limit back down to 108%- boosts too high, decays quickly. 

Also, so I can do some testing, does anyone have a link to the OC BIOS with the standard (108) power limit? 

Edit: Ran a Time Spy bench with identical Precision settings (incl. power limits) to before I switched the vBIOS- Graphics score is about 300 points lower, suspected as a result of the aformentionined boosting behavior. 
2020/12/09 12:09:24
AudiPete
Ethyriel_
Does this change anything other than the power limit? After updating, I've been running into unpredictable behavior while boosting. Previously, the card would go to 2070MHz on core and stay there. Now, with an identical offset, it jumps to 2100 (sometimes causing a crash), then decays across the course of a benchmark to as low as 2025 despite being well below 70C on the die. 

Note: This occurs even if I reduce the power limit back down to 108%- boosts too high, decays quickly. 

Also, so I can do some testing, does anyone have a link to the OC BIOS with the standard (108) power limit? 

Edit: Ran a Time Spy bench with identical Precision settings (incl. power limits) to before I switched the vBIOS- Graphics score is about 300 points lower, suspected as a result of the aformentionined boosting behavior. 


I had random crashes on Fortnite, it would just exit out of the game with the 450w bios. I would get upto 2100 but I was hitting over 80c, I had to flash a different bios and now my clocks are around the 2010-2070 mark running 320w and around 70c but fully stable. I think these ftw3 are on the limit of the cooling.
 
I believe stock oc bios is this one https://www.techpowerup.c...080-10240-200906 
2020/12/09 12:14:02
Ethyriel_
AudiPete
Ethyriel_
Does this change anything other than the power limit? After updating, I've been running into unpredictable behavior while boosting. Previously, the card would go to 2070MHz on core and stay there. Now, with an identical offset, it jumps to 2100 (sometimes causing a crash), then decays across the course of a benchmark to as low as 2025 despite being well below 70C on the die. 

Note: This occurs even if I reduce the power limit back down to 108%- boosts too high, decays quickly. 

Also, so I can do some testing, does anyone have a link to the OC BIOS with the standard (108) power limit? 

Edit: Ran a Time Spy bench with identical Precision settings (incl. power limits) to before I switched the vBIOS- Graphics score is about 300 points lower, suspected as a result of the aformentionined boosting behavior. 


I had random crashes on Fortnite, it would just exit out of the game with the 450w bios. I would get upto 2100 but I was hitting over 80c, I had to flash a different bios and now my clocks are around the 2010-2070 mark running 320w and around 70c but fully stable. I think these ftw3 are on the limit of the cooling.
 
I believe stock oc bios is this one https://www.techpowerup.c...080-10240-200906 


Thanks! Thermals with the stock BIOS were around 60C with a high overclock (+575 mem, +115 core), so I thought to see if I could do anything else with the 450W version. (I have two Noctua intake fans pointed directly at the card, as it's in an SFX case and I'm trying to focus on thermals/performance.) Seems like you really do need watercooling to make use of the extra headroom due to thermal limitations, despite how good the cooler is. 
2020/12/09 13:17:27
AudiPete
Ethyriel_
AudiPete
Ethyriel_
Does this change anything other than the power limit? After updating, I've been running into unpredictable behavior while boosting. Previously, the card would go to 2070MHz on core and stay there. Now, with an identical offset, it jumps to 2100 (sometimes causing a crash), then decays across the course of a benchmark to as low as 2025 despite being well below 70C on the die. 

Note: This occurs even if I reduce the power limit back down to 108%- boosts too high, decays quickly. 

Also, so I can do some testing, does anyone have a link to the OC BIOS with the standard (108) power limit? 

Edit: Ran a Time Spy bench with identical Precision settings (incl. power limits) to before I switched the vBIOS- Graphics score is about 300 points lower, suspected as a result of the aformentionined boosting behavior. 


I had random crashes on Fortnite, it would just exit out of the game with the 450w bios. I would get upto 2100 but I was hitting over 80c, I had to flash a different bios and now my clocks are around the 2010-2070 mark running 320w and around 70c but fully stable. I think these ftw3 are on the limit of the cooling.
 
I believe stock oc bios is this one https://www.techpowerup.c...080-10240-200906 


Thanks! Thermals with the stock BIOS were around 60C with a high overclock (+575 mem, +115 core), so I thought to see if I could do anything else with the 450W version. (I have two Noctua intake fans pointed directly at the card, as it's in an SFX case and I'm trying to focus on thermals/performance.) Seems like you really do need watercooling to make use of the extra headroom due to thermal limitations, despite how good the cooler is. 


I have really bad cooling to be honest I only have 3 fans blowing in from the top of my pc, these 3080s blow upward so the fans are blowing at each other, my best score so far but with the asus bios, https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15953974 if I used the evga 450w bios I get artifacts at the same clocks.
2020/12/09 15:45:35
mentalinc
It seems these BIOS are now based on an older version than is available.
Are there plans to release them again with the other updates?
 
From the update process, not sure if to try to flash an older version?
Firmware Image Version: 94.02.26.48.88
Current Firmware Version: 94.02.26.80.70


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