2020/11/15 03:05:24
tostrand
Drwaffles
Any ideas here guys?
I seem to be power throttling before the 118% limit even with the 450W bios installed.
GPU-Z reports the same thing, not just afterburner wigging out, it's mostly around 430w



Your GPU temperature is too high, GPU starts throttling after 60 C. May vary between GPU's. 
2020/11/15 04:07:41
Drwaffles
tostrand
 
Your GPU temperature is too high, GPU starts throttling after 60 C. May vary between GPU's. 

Please note, this time I had MSAA rendering at 200% at 4k res, hence the massive frame drop.
Was trying to load it up and see what it'd pull.

Waiting for EK to release the block already... Or EVGA to sell the HC blocks alone.
Nahh, power limiter isn't from temp. because even with the fans cranked at 80%, desktop idle for a few min down to 45c when I switched back to the game it would immediatly power throttle again.. Even before 55C
I understand clocks will drop as temps increase, and voltage with power limit  (Clocks obviously follow) 
It just seemingly wanted to reign it in early (As if it was worried about going past that)

I did manage to get a small improvment.
I used CMD console with "nvidia-smi -i 0 -pl 450" as the origional setting was like 448.5 or something..
Although that doesn't correlate to throttling at 110% PL (~425W) since I set that limiter to 450 its drawing much closer to what i'd expect in terms of descrepency.
Seems to power limit much closer to the 450w limit now.
 

 
 
2020/11/16 14:30:21
Paddy32
I undervolted the card to 0.850V at 1905Mhz using MSI Afterburner and the results are pretty good. With a custom fan curve that puts the fan at about 50% at 60°C, I lost about 1% fps but have -6°C. Really nice.

EDIT : I realized that you the fan curve control doesn't really work with MSI Afterburner. When I set it at 20% on idle, the fan just stopat 0 rpm. Very weird indeed. Any idea on how to fix this ? Do we have to use both Afterburner + Precision ? In what order and how does one achieve this ? I also realized that as soon as I close Afterburner, my undervolt curve goes away.

EDIT 2 : I have the same problem with Precision X1 now, what tf is happening ?
2020/11/17 00:10:50
ryokoseigo
I know this is going to sound stupid, but could anyone tell me if the FTW+ bios is worth it over the XC3?  I am trying to decide if I should put my name on the step-up or not.  I'll cost me about 63$ to do so.  I plan on watercooling it, so I'm, unsure if you can really squeeze noticeable performance out of it, or if the difference is almost exclusively in the cooler, which doesn't matter if I'm watercooling it.  And or, do we expect at some point a Xc3 bios with higher power limit/can we flash another bios to it?
2020/11/17 08:02:24
jacoffey85
Paddy32
I undervolted the card to 0.850V at 1905Mhz using MSI Afterburner and the results are pretty good. With a custom fan curve that puts the fan at about 50% at 60°C, I lost about 1% fps but have -6°C. Really nice.

EDIT : I realized that you the fan curve control doesn't really work with MSI Afterburner. When I set it at 20% on idle, the fan just stopat 0 rpm. Very weird indeed. Any idea on how to fix this ? Do we have to use both Afterburner + Precision ? In what order and how does one achieve this ? I also realized that as soon as I close Afterburner, my undervolt curve goes away.

EDIT 2 : I have the same problem with Precision X1 now, what tf is happening ?


In MSI Afterburner on the fan curve page (at least in the 4.6.3 version) there should be a dotted yellow line around 30-40%. This is the minimum speed the fan can run, any slower and it just stops. On my 3090 it’s at 35%, so I set minimum fan speed at 40% and ramp up from there.
2020/11/17 09:02:08
akguthal
ryokoseigo
I know this is going to sound stupid, but could anyone tell me if the FTW+ bios is worth it over the XC3?  I am trying to decide if I should put my name on the step-up or not.  I'll cost me about 63$ to do so.  I plan on watercooling it, so I'm, unsure if you can really squeeze noticeable performance out of it, or if the difference is almost exclusively in the cooler, which doesn't matter if I'm watercooling it.  And or, do we expect at some point a Xc3 bios with higher power limit/can we flash another bios to it?


I would also love to know this since I'm in the queues for the FTW and XC3 hybrid cards.
2020/11/17 12:37:43
hartmanjasonm
After updating to the beta bios, I consistently have long boot times due to a "VGA error" on my x570 GodLike. In PX1, it randomly has issues displaying temps as well.  Anyone else experiencing this?
 

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2020/11/17 15:40:24
aeunexcore
hartmanjasonm
After updating to the beta bios, I consistently have long boot times due to a "VGA error" on my x570 GodLike. In PX1, it randomly has issues displaying temps as well.  Anyone else experiencing this?
 




I'm noticing this with the current version of graphics driver and windows 10(20H2).  I'm running stock on the graphics card and I even see BSOD on the first boot everyday.  Something about "nvlddmkm.sys failed". I get this 100% on the first boot and I've already tried downgrading the graphics driver to 456.71(launch driver) and 457.09 but I only get stable boots with no BSOD or long load times on the launch driver version.  However, with 456.71, PX1 is totally messed up.  There's that 3rd fan bug running 200 rpm faster than the first two fans at the same percentage.  This is so aggravating because I've already done DDU about 20 million times trying to figure out what's wrong.  I wanna be updated with my driver & bios versions but why are they so broken af?!
 
2020/11/18 09:38:20
tostrand
aeunexcore
hartmanjasonm
After updating to the beta bios, I consistently have long boot times due to a "VGA error" on my x570 GodLike. In PX1, it randomly has issues displaying temps as well.  Anyone else experiencing this?
 




I'm noticing this with the current version of graphics driver and windows 10(20H2).  I'm running stock on the graphics card and I even see BSOD on the first boot everyday.  Something about "nvlddmkm.sys failed". I get this 100% on the first boot and I've already tried downgrading the graphics driver to 456.71(launch driver) and 457.09 but I only get stable boots with no BSOD or long load times on the launch driver version.  However, with 456.71, PX1 is totally messed up.  There's that 3rd fan bug running 200 rpm faster than the first two fans at the same percentage.  This is so aggravating because I've already done DDU about 20 million times trying to figure out what's wrong.  I wanna be updated with my driver & bios versions but why are they so broken af?!
 



I have noticed this as well. Boot goes past bios load screen, then nothing, black screen. I have to boot again to bios. Then save it (doesn't matter if I change something or not). After that it boots OK. Weird indeed. I thought it's a vbios issue, but can be driver issue. Still, I do not get any BSOD, or errors, just a black screen and can't see anything else.
2020/11/18 09:40:59
tostrand
Tried undervolting with 0.9v. Worked quite well. Got 9150 pt in TS Extreme, GPU score. I don't have temperature issues though. Run fan speeds at 70 % or above. Have maxi tower, so can't really hear any loud fan sounds.

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