2020/11/02 20:52:16
Dabadger84
jamexr
Jesus, I must have gotten a dud FTW Ultra. I see all these core ocs of 130+, mine can barely do 100 mhz stable, and that's only on 3dmark. If I play a game I get crashes (even with voltage slider to the max). Apart from 3d mark, are you guys testing with several games other than 3Dmark? 
 
Mine will pass 3Dmark fine with 100mhz oc on core, but games, nah, full on crashes.




I haven't actually tested +130 extensively in games, I've been experimenting with undervolting to try & lower temps & power draw, so far seems pretty good, getting 2010-2025MHz boost clocks with 950mv reading out as the voltage draw & only about 340W maximum draw, with temps peaking at 58-60C...
 
How mad would y'all be if you received a REPLACEMENT AIO from EK and it arrived looking like this:
 

 
The outer box from UPS is completely undamaged. Which means someone seriously PACKAGED IT and SHIPPED IT like that.
 
EK is very close to getting on my "never again" list.  That hole is deeper than it looks BTW, I'm not even going to open it unless they respond to my request for a paid label because I'm not paying return shipping again, telling me to open & check if it's damaged.  At this point I think I'm just gonna get a refund.
2020/11/03 01:54:39
chorl
Hi, newbie here.
 
Thinking of getting this card (FTW3 ULTRA), but after reading some threads, I have two questions (and more they came if I finally purchase it):
 
- I like very much the Zero-RPM profile of these cards, if I flash new XOC Bios, will I lose it? I think if card is in "Normal" switch, it should retain this profile, but not so sure.
- Third fan control from Afterburner, is it already resolved?
 
Thanks!
2020/11/03 02:05:52
Dabadger84
chorl
Hi, newbie here.
 
Thinking of getting this card (FTW3 ULTRA), but after reading some threads, I have two questions (and more they came if I finally purchase it):
 
- I like very much the Zero-RPM profile of these cards, if I flash new XOC Bios, will I lose it? I think if card is in "Normal" switch, it should retain this profile, but not so sure.
- Third fan control from Afterburner, is it already resolved?
 
Thanks!




Fan control in Afterburner is still super wonky, but that's on Afterburner to fix not eVGA.
 
Zero RPM mode is only available on the "Normal" BIOS, the OC BIOS (if you flip the switch to OC) does not have zero RPM mode & will bottom the fans out at 33%... You can however set a fan curve yourself in Precision X1 that lets the fans spin down to 0% when the GPU is idle, that's what I did.  There is a "normal" and "oc" XOC bios, and the same applies to them.
 
Unfortunately the current NVidia drivers (457.09) are causing fan control issues with everything, hopefully that will be resolved soon with another driver update.
2020/11/03 03:43:29
chorl
Dabadger84
chorl
Hi, newbie here.
 
Thinking of getting this card (FTW3 ULTRA), but after reading some threads, I have two questions (and more they came if I finally purchase it):
 
- I like very much the Zero-RPM profile of these cards, if I flash new XOC Bios, will I lose it? I think if card is in "Normal" switch, it should retain this profile, but not so sure.
- Third fan control from Afterburner, is it already resolved?
 
Thanks!




Fan control in Afterburner is still super wonky, but that's on Afterburner to fix not eVGA.
 
Zero RPM mode is only available on the "Normal" BIOS, the OC BIOS (if you flip the switch to OC) does not have zero RPM mode & will bottom the fans out at 33%... You can however set a fan curve yourself in Precision X1 that lets the fans spin down to 0% when the GPU is idle, that's what I did.  There is a "normal" and "oc" XOC bios, and the same applies to them.
 
Unfortunately the current NVidia drivers (457.09) are causing fan control issues with everything, hopefully that will be resolved soon with another driver update.




Thank you very much for your quick answer!
 
So, all the people who are using Afterburner for UV, are they having issues with their fans?
 
If I'm lucky next week I can have my card, so I'm taking into consideration all these things, for not messing up with the card, in EU stock is very limited, RMA could last forever...
 
Thanks again.
2020/11/03 05:52:04
MK6gti12
Cards will boost into the 1900's without the beta bios an extra 50-150mhz isn't going to make anything really tangible in games where you'd realistically want to get a different card with ****tier customer service.
2020/11/03 06:06:27
Paddy32
chorl
 
Thank you very much for your quick answer!
 
So, all the people who are using Afterburner for UV, are they having issues with their fans?
 
If I'm lucky next week I can have my card, so I'm taking into consideration all these things, for not messing up with the card, in EU stock is very limited, RMA could last forever...
 
Thanks again.




It would be sad to RMA a card because you don't know how to set a custom fan curve. It's really simple in Precision X1 :) You can set fan to turn off under 55°C. As an example with my GPU, I flashed the BIOS and put the new OC BIOS on my EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3. Then I have saved 2 profiles on Precision X1 :

- an "OC" profile: +200 Core / +1000 Mem, +100% Voltage, +118% Power, Default OC Fan Curve (which I find to be very nice). I use this profile when I'm gaming and general use of the PC. Sound of the GPU fans are barely noticeable. Idle temperature is about 33°C. (41°C idle when RTX Broadcast on, it consumes a lot)
 
- a "casual" profile: +0 Core / +0 Mem, +0% Voltage, +100% Power, Custom fan curve that turns off under 55°C then ramps up to 50%, then at 80% at 80°C. 5000ms fan reaction time. I use this profile if I'm leaving my PC on all night long running a macro, mostly on bluestacks. Idle temperature is about 42°C.
2020/11/03 06:30:15
chorl
Paddy32
chorl
 
Thank you very much for your quick answer!
 
So, all the people who are using Afterburner for UV, are they having issues with their fans?
 
If I'm lucky next week I can have my card, so I'm taking into consideration all these things, for not messing up with the card, in EU stock is very limited, RMA could last forever...
 
Thanks again.




It would be sad to RMA a card because you don't know how to set a custom fan curve. It's really simple in Precision X1 :) You can set fan to turn off under 55°C. As an example with my GPU, I flashed the BIOS and put the new OC BIOS on my EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3. Then I have saved 2 profiles on Precision X1 :

- an "OC" profile: +200 Core / +1000 Mem, +100% Voltage, +118% Power, Default OC Fan Curve (which I find to be very nice). I use this profile when I'm gaming and general use of the PC. Sound of the GPU fans are barely noticeable. Idle temperature is about 33°C. (41°C idle when RTX Broadcast on, it consumes a lot)
 
- a "casual" profile: +0 Core / +0 Mem, +0% Voltage, +100% Power, Custom fan curve that turns off under 55°C then ramps up to 50%, then at 80% at 80°C. 5000ms fan reaction time. I use this profile if I'm leaving my PC on all night long running a macro, mostly on bluestacks. Idle temperature is about 42°C.




Sorry, I've been misunderstood (don't speak english natively).
 
I won't RMA a card for having bad luck in OC/UV, etc. It's the bin lottery, I would accept what dear RNGESUS gives to me. In fact, I have now a UV Strix 3090 which performs quite well with UV...But has unbearable coil fan (even with UV, 1200 platinum PSU, 14+2 VRM in motherboard), so I'm going to return it to seller.
 
That's the fabric of my nightmares, coil whine. I can expect mid range performance, don't care, but this sound, is freaking me out. That's my second RTX returned card. First one was Gigabyte Gaming OC with defective power connectors.
 
I know these FTW3 has been reported as affected quite a bit for coil whine, I only expect to get a quiet card, make some modest UV, and get my life bak. I'm really tired of this RTX launch.
 
But thank you very much for your recommendations, I'll take them if I can finally get the card.
 
Thanks!
2020/11/03 09:02:04
Dabadger84
chorl
Thank you very much for your quick answer!
 
So, all the people who are using Afterburner for UV, are they having issues with their fans?
 
If I'm lucky next week I can have my card, so I'm taking into consideration all these things, for not messing up with the card, in EU stock is very limited, RMA could last forever...
 
Thanks again.




The issue with the Afterburner fan control is just that they run less than what you set it to, it's not a serious issue (for example, if I set the fan to 80% in Afterburner, it runs  at 71%.  If I set it to 86%, they run at 80%, so it's not a huge deal), and it will likely be fixed when Afterburner gets it's official update, since the Ampere stuff is still in beta, technically, I think.  You can always set a custom fan curve there, or do what I'm doing & fight with Precision X1 & Afterburner to control fans and also have an undervolt curve.
 
The real fan issue right now is the one caused by NVidia drivers making fan 1 & 2 not work properly with custom fan curves, I.E. they're spinning up & down at 0%, running a lower speed than the 3rd fan etc, but that will be fixed in the next NVidia driver update (hopefully), and that happens with custom fan curves in Precision X1 and Afterburner both.  Simple way to avoid that is set the BIOS switch on the card to OC mode (which defaults the fans to 33% when idle) and set the fans to "Auto" in Precision or Afterburner, letting the BIOS control the fans, then they all run at the same speed.
 
If you want to avoid the second issue, just don't use the 457.09 drivers, use the previous one until they release the next one that fixes the fan issue.  The Afterburner issue we just have to wait on them to fix.  Neither of those should result in anything bad happening to the card though, as long as you're keeping an eye on temperatures as much as one can, it should be fine... and keep in mind, NVidia cards will throttle when they hit their Temperature Target, so the risk of actually damaging the card because of a fan issue is very low.
 
2020/11/03 09:14:20
chorl
Dabadger84
chorl
Thank you very much for your quick answer!
 
So, all the people who are using Afterburner for UV, are they having issues with their fans?
 
If I'm lucky next week I can have my card, so I'm taking into consideration all these things, for not messing up with the card, in EU stock is very limited, RMA could last forever...
 
Thanks again.




The issue with the Afterburner fan control is just that they run less than what you set it to, it's not a serious issue (for example, if I set the fan to 80% in Afterburner, it runs  at 71%.  If I set it to 86%, they run at 80%, so it's not a huge deal), and it will likely be fixed when Afterburner gets it's official update, since the Ampere stuff is still in beta, technically, I think.  You can always set a custom fan curve there, or do what I'm doing & fight with Precision X1 & Afterburner to control fans and also have an undervolt curve.
 
The real fan issue right now is the one caused by NVidia drivers making fan 1 & 2 not work properly with custom fan curves, I.E. they're spinning up & down at 0%, running a lower speed than the 3rd fan etc, but that will be fixed in the next NVidia driver update (hopefully), and that happens with custom fan curves in Precision X1 and Afterburner both.  Simple way to avoid that is set the BIOS switch on the card to OC mode (which defaults the fans to 33% when idle) and set the fans to "Auto" in Precision or Afterburner, letting the BIOS control the fans, then they all run at the same speed.
 
If you want to avoid the second issue, just don't use the 457.09 drivers, use the previous one until they release the next one that fixes the fan issue.  The Afterburner issue we just have to wait on them to fix.  Neither of those should result in anything bad happening to the card though, as long as you're keeping an eye on temperatures as much as one can, it should be fine... and keep in mind, NVidia cards will throttle when they hit their Temperature Target, so the risk of actually damaging the card because of a fan issue is very low.
 




Thanks again, I'll stick to that once I grab one of these (difficult task, at least here in EU).
 
PS: Newbie to the forum aswell, is there any kind of "Thanks" button or something?
2020/11/03 09:57:48
SladeX
Playing watch dogs legion on ultra 1440p. I hit a peak of 2200 mhz and 481W draw. Normal switch, XOC bios, power target 119%, left surprisingly at stock mem, core clock and voltage.

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