2020/10/26 09:25:11
schmak01
Lazaredz
I'm probably being blind but .... is there a link to the original BIOS anywhere if we wish to go back?




I was wondering the same
2020/10/26 17:46:02
q5sys
kevinc313
mrv153
This Bios is really weird. Can someone share the original bios?
 
I got with old bios with the exact same settings in x1 and fans 19250 timespy score.
Now I get only 18.000, sometimes 17600??
 
Settings are +700mem +140 core +0mv Voltage 105% PT
When I set 118% PT score get much worser.
In all tests I have 50°C avg temp of gpu.


Reedey
Yea I'm in a similar boat, this bios simply doesn't work with my system. Scores, overclocks and stability are all higher using the original bios.



Please review my post about the voltage slider on the previous page.
 
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3119839
 
Without allowing the card to increase core voltage, you are not likely to be stable at higher clocks.



So the new XOC BIOS doesn't allow you to get higher voltage?
During rendering I think that's what is my limiting factor, because Im well under TDP for the stock BIOS.

I'm at +225 on Core and +1700 on Memory giving me 2235Mhz @ 254.2W
If I go any higher the render will crash. I'm well under total power envelope and temps are golden... but I'm hitting VREL/VOP at that point.
 
https://i.imgur.com/j5Jzze2.png

If the XOC wont give me anymore in the voltage area, i don't see any point for me to bother with it.
2020/10/26 18:07:02
Dabadger84
q5sys
kevinc313
mrv153
This Bios is really weird. Can someone share the original bios?
 
I got with old bios with the exact same settings in x1 and fans 19250 timespy score.
Now I get only 18.000, sometimes 17600??
 
Settings are +700mem +140 core +0mv Voltage 105% PT
When I set 118% PT score get much worser.
In all tests I have 50°C avg temp of gpu.


Reedey
Yea I'm in a similar boat, this bios simply doesn't work with my system. Scores, overclocks and stability are all higher using the original bios.



Please review my post about the voltage slider on the previous page.
 
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3119839
 
Without allowing the card to increase core voltage, you are not likely to be stable at higher clocks.



So the new XOC BIOS doesn't allow you to get higher voltage?
During rendering I think that's what is my limiting factor, because Im well under TDP for the stock BIOS.

I'm at +225 on Core and +1700 on Memory giving me 2235Mhz @ 254.2W
If I go any higher the render will crash. I'm well under total power envelope and temps are golden... but I'm hitting VREL/VOP at that point.
 
https://i.imgur.com/j5Jzze2.png

If the XOC wont give me anymore in the voltage area, i don't see any point for me to bother with it.




Voltage adjustment hasn't been a thing they've allowed for generations on official BIOSes as far as I know, outside of KP cards.  You'd need a K|ngp|n or unlocked BIOS, or to physically volt mod the card, to get that.
I've seen the same, about 80% of the time if I'm hitting a PerfCap reason it's VRel/VOp and not Pwr now.
Still wish they'd release a 525W BIOS cuz that's what the card could actually handle with the plugs it has on it + the PCIe slot :-P  But I doubt we'll get an official one like that, at some point someone will release a BIOS that can do it though.
Given that people are undervolting & still hitting 2000-2100MHz boost in most instances, I think the "max voltage" you can get by maxing out the voltage slider for the extra +100mV still has more headroom than ~2200.
Easiest way to find that out for sure would be to find someone that's power modded the card by shunt modding the power connectors so it can pull "infinite power" almost, and seeing where they max out WITHOUT messing with any volt-modding... problem is most people that do one, do both, because they're going LN2 & trying to hit world records.
2020/10/26 18:16:14
Kylearan
Mandalorian1977
I did a lot of testing with the 3080 FTW3 Ultra in Time Spy and Port Royal. For me, i got better scores upping the memory clock a bit, at the expense of some core speed. 
 
I'd try +120 core, 0 memory, which amounts to 2100mhz on the core clock. 
Then i'd do +115 core, +200 memory and get a better score. 
 
I my actual highest score was from +110 core, 500 memory, but... i thought maybe in real games and video editing i might be better off just going with a higher core, slightly slower memory. 
 
I'd get crashes if i tried to sneak much more than that. It was like a give and take between core and memory. 
 
I'm a total noob to all this, honestly. But these are my findings after running those benchmarks over and over with slight adjustments. 
 
I think i'll stick with +115 core and +200 memory. 
Which amounts to 2085mhz and 10002mhz


Core clocks only go up in 15 mhz increments.
So depending on what your default clocks are set to the offsets will be +15/30/45/60/70/90/105/120, etc.
You should have absolutely no difference between +115 and +110.
Check it with MSI Afterburner with "Maximum performance" set in the Nvidia control panel so the card is always at boost clocks, and you'll see where the steps occur at.
2020/10/27 12:48:29
wadec22
downloaded and installed Beta BIOS - why does precision X try to update my firmware everytime I try to run the program?  I have the proper 3080 FTW OC Beta BIOS and Precision X1 version 1.1.0.11 installed.
 
If I go one version older to 1.1.0.9 - it works fine.  Weird.
2020/10/27 14:29:14
jamexr
wadec22
downloaded and installed Beta BIOS - why does precision X try to update my firmware everytime I try to run the program?  I have the proper 3080 FTW OC Beta BIOS and Precision X1 version 1.1.0.11 installed.
 
If I go one version older to 1.1.0.9 - it works fine.  Weird.


Because bios and firmware are two different things. The "bios" in this thread is for the power limit (and generally are for things like clock speeds etc), the "firmware" that PX1 is trying to update is for the MCU controller, mainly for things like fan speeds, behaviour, LED's etc. They are two different things altogether.
2020/10/27 14:35:08
wadec22
that makes a ton of sense, thanks!
 
does precision x allow you to view gpu utilization?  i can't find a way to toggle that on and off.
does the OSD not work as well as afterburner?  it works fine for me in warzone, but i cannot get it to work in tarkov.  AB worked in both for me.
 
thanks for the help.  getting acclimated. :)
 
3080ftw ultra is a beast!
2020/10/27 17:43:44
Paddy32
Hello all 

After many benchmarks this was my maximum score on Port Royal : 

 
I went from 1000 Mem / 200 Clock (12220 Port Royal) to 500 Mem / 200 Clock (12427 Port Royal) which is very interesting. I installed the 450W OC Bios on the GPU and hit Vrel during benchmarks.

I'm quite happy with the results knowing that I'm using an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X and air cooling.

MB : MSI X570 TOMAHAWK
CPU : Amd Ryzen 7 3700X - PBO enabled (Enhanced Mode 3)
CPU Cooler : Noctua NH-D15
GPU : EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3
PSU : Seasonic Focus 850W Plat
RAM : 16Gox2 3200Mhz

Quite funnily enough, this score is just in the top 100 for 3700X + RTX 3080 :

 
Not the best, but not bad either I suppose.
2020/10/28 04:21:20
JJ_Cane_Reddit
will there be a new bios update with higher power limits for XC3 Ultra as well?
 
Thanks!
2020/10/28 07:39:12
Dabadger84
Paddy32
Hello all 

After many benchmarks this was my maximum score on Port Royal : 
 
I went from 1000 Mem / 200 Clock (12220 Port Royal) to 500 Mem / 200 Clock (12427 Port Royal) which is very interesting. I installed the 450W OC Bios on the GPU and hit Vrel during benchmarks.

I'm quite happy with the results knowing that I'm using an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X and air cooling.

MB : MSI X570 TOMAHAWK
CPU : Amd Ryzen 7 3700X - PBO enabled (Enhanced Mode 3)
CPU Cooler : Noctua NH-D15
GPU : EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3
PSU : Seasonic Focus 850W Plat
RAM : 16Gox2 3200Mhz

Quite funnily enough, this score is just in the top 100 for 3700X + RTX 3080 :
 
 
Not the best, but not bad either I suppose.




Apparently I'm #9 on the 9900K/3080 chart O_o that's crazy to me:
 

 
Well, technically speaking, I'm 4th, because 1-5 is one guy & 7/8 are the same guy as well. lol
 
And almost everyone above me has a higher CPU/GPU clock.  I think I could actually get #1 if I did some system optimizations to further limit what's going on in the background... it's only 200 pts away lol

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