2021/07/24 01:15:02
Swash87
So have eVGA really just glossed over this unbalanced power draw issue, offered some sort of valid RMA process or actually actively working on it?

Sucks, seems like no end to little issues with eVGA lately, too think pre-3080 release i was actually super excited to get my hands on an eVGA product again....
2021/07/24 05:52:59
kevinc313
Swash87
So have eVGA really just glossed over this unbalanced power draw issue, offered some sort of valid RMA process or actually actively working on it?

Sucks, seems like no end to little issues with eVGA lately, too think pre-3080 release i was actually super excited to get my hands on an eVGA product again....




While some people truely have unbalanced power draw, others aren't loading up their cards hard enough to get the full power.  I can get 445w average in Furmark.  Gaming is usually about 410-425w with a high load.  It's enough power to keep the card at 2,055-2,115mhz at 1.075-1.1V vcore in 4K gaming, if you can keep it cool, say under 70C.
2021/07/24 08:42:05
the1320god68
kevinc313
Swash87
So have eVGA really just glossed over this unbalanced power draw issue, offered some sort of valid RMA process or actually actively working on it?

Sucks, seems like no end to little issues with eVGA lately, too think pre-3080 release i was actually super excited to get my hands on an eVGA product again....




While some people truely have unbalanced power draw, others aren't loading up their cards hard enough to get the full power.  I can get 445w average in Furmark.  Gaming is usually about 410-425w with a high load.  It's enough power to keep the card at 2,055-2,115mhz at 1.075-1.1V vcore in 4K gaming, if you can keep it cool, say under 70C.
my max in furmark is 414w. Average in games is about 375w with temps at 60c. 4K gaming and overclocked. Not sure how to load it harder.
2021/07/24 08:42:40
Swash87
kevinc313
Swash87
So have eVGA really just glossed over this unbalanced power draw issue, offered some sort of valid RMA process or actually actively working on it?

Sucks, seems like no end to little issues with eVGA lately, too think pre-3080 release i was actually super excited to get my hands on an eVGA product again....




While some people truely have unbalanced power draw, others aren't loading up their cards hard enough to get the full power.  I can get 445w average in Furmark.  Gaming is usually about 410-425w with a high load.  It's enough power to keep the card at 2,055-2,115mhz at 1.075-1.1V vcore in 4K gaming, if you can keep it cool, say under 70C.



Mmm yeah idk my readings are all over the place
Under furmark specifically it won't push past 100 power limit (literally sits on 100% and has a "pwr" cap reason with the slider pushed to 118>450w bios) with power draw of 40w PCI-e, and ~125>155>65w which lands me around 385w on a 450w bios.
Thats with the fans on 100% and core sitting around 68 degree's, +130 clock and a 80% voltage slider (only hitting 1650mhz at 775mv)

Go to something a little more dynamic, like superposition and it'll suck more voltage (seems a bit backwards? i thought furmark was the power sucker), it'll go a bit over 100%, seems to top out at 2050mhz/1070mv but that still lands the power draw around 400-410w and the 4 power loads are still wildly uneven.....
I've got no doubt it'd be able to pull that extra 50-70w if whatever was triggering the pwr limit was fixed (perhaps because one of the PCI connectors is hitting 150w wheres the others are 60-70 and 110-120w? rather than all equally pulling a collective lower amount) but it all seems unbalanced, unlike other cards ive seen in reviews and such for 3080 FTW's where all 3 PCI-e connectors are within a couple watts of each other and they're near or hitting that 450w power limit.

I always wonder if its actually drawing the correct wattage its just not being reported correctly but the onboard sensors (considering when you shunt mod cards they never report accurately again, perhaps theres something there messing up the signals/bad joints/bad resistors/etc....be good if someone with the correct interfacing gear, ie LTT/GN/Etc, could investigate what its actually drawing vs what its reporting) or if it truely is a dodgy regulator onboard thats limiting the cards/unfixable hardware problem (my cards a new gen with black lips, only had it for a few months so if there was a running change you expect this card to have it)
2021/07/24 08:50:41
FedericoUY
kevinc313
 
 
While some people truely have unbalanced power draw, others aren't loading up their cards hard enough to get the full power.  I can get 445w average in Furmark.  Gaming is usually about 410-425w with a high load.  It's enough power to keep the card at 2,055-2,115mhz at 1.075-1.1V vcore in 4K gaming, if you can keep it cool, say under 70C.


Do you have an older model of FTW3 Ultra? What bios are you on?
2021/07/24 09:08:26
coresare
Is it the same download link for the xoc bios in the beginning of this thread for the kl versions?
2021/07/24 10:01:47
kevinc313
FedericoUY
kevinc313
 
 
While some people truely have unbalanced power draw, others aren't loading up their cards hard enough to get the full power.  I can get 445w average in Furmark.  Gaming is usually about 410-425w with a high load.  It's enough power to keep the card at 2,055-2,115mhz at 1.075-1.1V vcore in 4K gaming, if you can keep it cool, say under 70C.


Do you have an older model of FTW3 Ultra? What bios are you on?




See attached.  Rebar 450w Bios.  Card is from the mid Dec 2020 drop.  I've got good 3rd 8-pin power draw.

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2021/07/24 10:05:28
kevinc313
Swash87
kevinc313
Swash87
So have eVGA really just glossed over this unbalanced power draw issue, offered some sort of valid RMA process or actually actively working on it?

Sucks, seems like no end to little issues with eVGA lately, too think pre-3080 release i was actually super excited to get my hands on an eVGA product again....




While some people truely have unbalanced power draw, others aren't loading up their cards hard enough to get the full power.  I can get 445w average in Furmark.  Gaming is usually about 410-425w with a high load.  It's enough power to keep the card at 2,055-2,115mhz at 1.075-1.1V vcore in 4K gaming, if you can keep it cool, say under 70C.



Mmm yeah idk my readings are all over the place
Under furmark specifically it won't push past 100 power limit (literally sits on 100% and has a "pwr" cap reason with the slider pushed to 118>450w bios) with power draw of 40w PCI-e, and ~125>155>65w which lands me around 385w on a 450w bios.
Thats with the fans on 100% and core sitting around 68 degree's, +130 clock and a 80% voltage slider (only hitting 1650mhz at 775mv)

Go to something a little more dynamic, like superposition and it'll suck more voltage (seems a bit backwards? i thought furmark was the power sucker), it'll go a bit over 100%, seems to top out at 2050mhz/1070mv but that still lands the power draw around 400-410w and the 4 power loads are still wildly uneven.....
I've got no doubt it'd be able to pull that extra 50-70w if whatever was triggering the pwr limit was fixed (perhaps because one of the PCI connectors is hitting 150w wheres the others are 60-70 and 110-120w? rather than all equally pulling a collective lower amount) but it all seems unbalanced, unlike other cards ive seen in reviews and such for 3080 FTW's where all 3 PCI-e connectors are within a couple watts of each other and they're near or hitting that 450w power limit.

I always wonder if its actually drawing the correct wattage its just not being reported correctly but the onboard sensors (considering when you shunt mod cards they never report accurately again, perhaps theres something there messing up the signals/bad joints/bad resistors/etc....be good if someone with the correct interfacing gear, ie LTT/GN/Etc, could investigate what its actually drawing vs what its reporting) or if it truely is a dodgy regulator onboard thats limiting the cards/unfixable hardware problem (my cards a new gen with black lips, only had it for a few months so if there was a running change you expect this card to have it)




You can try Furmark with a +90 or +120 OC and 2X MSAA.  Also use the latest version of Precision X1.  But it sounds like you could have a card with the low 3rd 8-pin power.
2021/07/24 10:06:34
kevinc313
the1320god68
kevinc313
Swash87
So have eVGA really just glossed over this unbalanced power draw issue, offered some sort of valid RMA process or actually actively working on it?

Sucks, seems like no end to little issues with eVGA lately, too think pre-3080 release i was actually super excited to get my hands on an eVGA product again....




While some people truely have unbalanced power draw, others aren't loading up their cards hard enough to get the full power.  I can get 445w average in Furmark.  Gaming is usually about 410-425w with a high load.  It's enough power to keep the card at 2,055-2,115mhz at 1.075-1.1V vcore in 4K gaming, if you can keep it cool, say under 70C.
my max in furmark is 414w. Average in games is about 375w with temps at 60c. 4K gaming and overclocked. Not sure how to load it harder.



Try the latest version of Precision X1 and +90 OC, MSAA 2X.
2021/07/24 12:43:21
tomit12
the1320god68
my max in furmark is 414w. Average in games is about 375w with temps at 60c. 4K gaming and overclocked. Not sure how to load it harder.



This is basically the same situation for me. 1000w EVGA gold PSU, so it shouldn't be a power issue. I've also tried flipping around cables and whatnot. I haven't found a way yet to make the card even consider pulling 450w, and the 'perfcap reason' is always 'pwr'.
 
Edit - Forgot to add, no splitters or Y cables; each socket is powered by an individual cable straight from the power supply. The rest of my PC is stock settings; watercooled 3900x (using whichever NZXT has the long 3 fan radiator, forgot which), 2 NVME, 1 HDD, 32GB DDR 3600, ASUS TUF X570 Plus Gaming Wifi motherboard... pretty standard stuff.
 
Bios is the REBAR OC 450W applied to the OC switch side, though the weird 3rd rail thing happens on every bios, up to and including the normal switch stock one. Temps never break about 68c, and I use the aggressive fan curve because I don't really care about the noise. The card is about a month old, so no red lipstick, and it's also not an LHR variant.
 
Here is my PC running Furmark, with the sensor data and Precision settings:
 

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