2020/11/04 12:47:05
grirvan
Any hope of a firmware upgrade that can fix transient power spikes?
I cannot imagine EVGA specifying wattage minimums for power supplies that are inadequate specifications (not including coverage for transient power spikes).
It make no sense at all that people who meet the specifications or exceed the specifications greatly would still need to replace their power supplies due to transient power spikes.
2020/11/04 12:51:38
jankerson
grirvan
Any hope of a firmware upgrade that can fix transient power spikes?
I cannot imagine EVGA specifying wattage minimums for power supplies that are inadequate specifications (not including coverage for transient power spikes).
It make no sense at all that people who meet the specifications or exceed the specifications greatly would still need to replace their power supplies due to transient power spikes.




 
No firmware update can fix that.
 
GPUs have had them for awhile now due to the way GPUs work.
 
And other things like raid arrays etc.
 
When they need power they go from ZERO to 100 MPH in microseconds so the power draw is the same.
 
As the GPUs get more powerful it will just continue, it really started with the 1000X series like the 1080Ti and the VEGA 64.
 
MOST PSUs are fine and can handle them, it's just some are either too old and or out of date or of poor design or quality.
2020/11/04 12:58:00
grirvan
Thank you for the reply. To solve this, I am not against replacing mine, but how would I know what to buy?
I saw a thread of people listing theirs that work, but would rather have a better source than that.
I am assuming EVGA (since it is their card) would provide good power supplies, but how high in wattage do we need to go versus the EVGA power meter calculator?
2020/11/04 13:04:20
jankerson
grirvan
Thank you for the reply. To solve this, I am not against replacing mine, but how would I know what to buy?
I saw a thread of people listing theirs that work, but would rather have a better source than that.
I am assuming EVGA (since it is their card) would provide good power supplies, but how high in wattage do we need to go versus the EVGA power meter calculator?




It doesn't work that way....
 
Transient power spikes have nothing to do with the wattage capacity of the PSU.
 
It could be a 1200W PSU and still shut down.
 
It's about PSU design, and that's internally on the secondary side of the unit.
 
If you get a high quality PSU and of the proper wattage, say 750W to 850W they are fine.
 
For the most part, some do have issues for the reason above.
 
The List is actually pretty accurate.
 
Especially the EVGA, Corsair and Seasonic units listed.
 
I know Corsair tested all of theirs and basically said this.
 
All of the current Units they make, GOLD rated or above are fine except for the SF Models.
 
With Corsair that means starting with the TXM and higher are good.
 
 
 
 
2020/11/04 13:19:49
cannubus
I have a 3090 Strix and had an EVGA 850W GA. I was having lots of shutdown and restarts when playing games. I was able to return it and pick up a ROG Thor 1200W, but haven't installed it yet. 
2020/11/06 19:57:16
maxio
I have the 3090 FTW3 Ultra on a 1200w Coolermaster Platinum with 3 separate brand new cables (each tested with a PSU tester for voltage) and I still get this kind of issues.   It's almost like a driver instability issue mixed with bad internal voltage regulation maybe?  It looks similar to artifacting and then when I force a reboot I notice Nvidia RLA Utility crashed with an error report in the background.   

Specs:
i7 8700k with AIO liquid cooler getting decent temps
Gigabyte 370 motherboard
32gb DDR4
Xfi Titanium HD
Thunderbolt 3/USB C addon card
RTX 3090 EVGA FTW3
Coolermaster V1200 Platinum PSU
LG Nanocell 85 49" Gsync, 4k 120hz, ALLM
Z5500 Speakers (with my sub far away from computer)
2020/11/09 07:16:54
grirvan
I have been experiencing repeated re-boots mid-game and still am, but here is what I have done, learned and still may do.
What I have done:
■unplugged all non-essential hardware to reduce wattage used (non-used ssd's, unnecessary sound card/went back to motherboard audio 
■re-connected my GPU to the power supply with 3 individual cables (leaving the 2nd connector on each hang free)
■installed newest NVIDIA driver
■installed newest version of Precision X
What I have learned:
■not all games crash, but some still did and as much as I hated it, I uninstalled and re-installed games and that solved it
What I still "may" do:
■upgrade the bios on my motherboard, but I hesitate to do that because of the risk of complications and the pain of having to reconfigure the settings again in the bios after an upgrade
■lastly upgrade my power supply (850W), but I really cannot believe that would be necessary when EVGA specifically specifies less wattage required and I certainly can't believe they would sell cards that "only work" with certain power supplies. That is crazy.
 
2020/11/09 07:28:45
jankerson
grirvan
I have been experiencing repeated re-boots mid-game and still am, but here is what I have done, learned and still may do.
What I have done:
■unplugged all non-essential hardware to reduce wattage used (non-used ssd's, unnecessary sound card/went back to motherboard audio 
■re-connected my GPU to the power supply with 3 individual cables (leaving the 2nd connector on each hang free)
■installed newest NVIDIA driver
■installed newest version of Precision X
What I have learned:
■not all games crash, but some still did and as much as I hated it, I uninstalled and re-installed games and that solved it
What I still "may" do:
■upgrade the bios on my motherboard, but I hesitate to do that because of the risk of complications and the pain of having to reconfigure the settings again in the bios after an upgrade
■lastly upgrade my power supply (850W), but I really cannot believe that would be necessary when EVGA specifically specifies less wattage required and I certainly can't believe they would sell cards that "only work" with certain power supplies. That is crazy.
 




 
EVGA or Nvidia has no control over what the PSU manufactures do or don't do or how they design their units.
 
There are tiers of PSUs based on cost and quality just like everything else in the world today.
 
So just saying a X wattage PSU is recommended doesn't mean anything, it's the actual model of the PSU that matters. EVGA and all others sell total crap PSUs as well as good and then excellent ones as well.
 
There is a lot more to a PSU than just the wattage, efficiency rating or brand name. 
2020/11/09 07:44:10
grirvan
I hear you and agree, but I am having a tough time believing my power supply purchased in 2019 is not good enough to run my new video card.
2020/11/09 07:48:19
jankerson
grirvan
I hear you and agree, but I am having a tough time believing my power supply purchased in 2019 is not good enough to run my new video card.




 
You hear me, but you don't really understand what I am saying. Doesn't matter if it's a year old or you got it today.
 
What matters is what I laid out in the last post.
 
It's the actual model of PSU that matters here, what it is and how good it is or isn't.
 
If it can handle the transient power spikes or not.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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