Haters always gonna hate... I’m Team EVGA all the way!

Maxidrom2002

savi01
I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
 

Hey, plz become educated. They/Jacob only mentions FTW3 card...how it has 2MLCCs...which is same as FE version...

At the end he is like...oh, and BTW, XC3s have 1 MLCC...but thats no issue...they will run just fine...

Um...no, there will be left performance on the table...because of early on decisions.

Cards are barely ever sold as being able to OC to a certain desired point, they are sold to operate at the speed listed in the spec sheet. To blame a company for an already high TDP card not OCing far enough is ridiculous.

R3L3NTL3SS

Maxidrom2002

savi01
I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
 

Hey, plz become educated. They/Jacob only mentions FTW3 card...how it has 2MLCCs...which is same as FE version...

At the end he is like...oh, and BTW, XC3s have 1 MLCC...but thats no issue...they will run just fine...

Um...no, there will be left performance on the table...because of early on decisions.

Buy a higher SKU card if you want the best with the most OC potential. Thats literally nothing new. Lol

This, precisely.  Spend more money = get higher clocks and headroom.

rain2_usa

Maxidrom2002

rain2_usa

pbmpharmacist

Maxidrom2002
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...

Agree

Because none of the EVGA retail cards have issues...absolutely no reason whatsoever to make a statement on an unreleased product where the issue was discovered and fixed before release.  

Thats a bold statement cotton, lets see if thats gonna work out for ya...

The "bold" statement is what an EVGA brand director stated in this thread about the retail release.  Review cards may have them, which are being swapped bout, but NO retail cards.  EVGA has made that statement. If they lied about that, there will be repercussions on their brand, which I don't think anyone in the company would risk.  

I highly doubt anyone would straight up lie
..thats too damaging.

Its marketing deception. 2 points:
1. I wish they would explain early on WHY they didn't have card availability...and tell u the truth still don't.
2. They only address FTW...while XC3 gets left out for the most part. Jay already mentioned cards having problems with just one MLCC and will most likely also need to update v-bios to downclock.

I appreciate the honesty and communication by evga, and the fact that they caught the issue in testing , but its unfortunate that evga and pretty much every other brand aside from asus chose to opt for the cheaper option when they could have used a full ceramic array while asus managed to do that, design a great cooler, a beefy vrm and still come in at msrp.  And to use only 1 mlcc array on the sc3 is disappointing, come on thats extreme penny pinching! 

How does the XC3 ultra run ok with only 1 of the good squares, but the FTW3 with the same boost needs 2??  Somebody smart please answer.

Yes thank you one of the reason I'm still a EVga customer
 

This is cute and all but ASUS is shipping cards with 6 MLCC, which seems like the best solution. Why isn’t EVGA doing the same?

R3L3NTL3SS

Maxidrom2002

savi01
I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
 

Hey, plz become educated. They/Jacob only mentions FTW3 card...how it has 2MLCCs...which is same as FE version...

At the end he is like...oh, and BTW, XC3s have 1 MLCC...but thats no issue...they will run just fine...

Um...no, there will be left performance on the table...because of early on decisions.

Buy a higher SKU card if you want the best with the most OC potential. Thats literally nothing new. Lol

For 699 XC3 card...I AT LEAST would like to get EQUAL design quality/performance as the NVIDIA 699 FE card...

Would u not agree?

Maxidrom2002

2. They only address FTW...while XC3 gets left out for the most part. Jay already mentioned cards having problems with just one MLCC and will most likely also need to update v-bios to downclock.

He said the ones with 0 MLCCs would likely need a v-bios update. He had another vendor call him already about it before he could review it and it turned out to have 6x0.