2020/09/27 08:17:37
stefanhondasi
I know few people that got bad units with all cheap caps. Also I had photo here but it was taken out. I bet there will be a recall. I also think there is one more issue with aib boards but I will leave that for some other time. Your best bet is going with FE model.
2020/09/27 09:05:38
Memsar
Does anybody know which design and components evga rtx 3090 kingpin has used? This card has a world record 2.58Ghz with liquid nitrogen!
2020/09/27 09:06:41
Axejess
Vlax_Aus
Axejess
Vlax_Aus
Hello. I'm mechanical engineer with some electrical experience and I would like to share my opinion on this. I think that the problem is RF frequency noise at higher voltages, not the actual capacity of sp-caps (mtcc) or mlcc ones. Higher rated caps 220-330-470uf have much higher frequency noise, and due to this design (closest possible to gpu core for fast voltage discharge/flow) they have smaller or don't have at all RF filter. Because most crashes happening when clock speed is hitting 2ghz, 300+ watts. And mlcc caps are much more unreliable but faster responding than sp caps, that's why you need combination of both. I think this Evga's 4x 220 (lower noise) + 2(ftw) or 1(xc) is very clever and it will actually work fine. But due to capacitor sizes , I don't think that they will top the performance charts (but they will be reliable and higher tier).



So is there "much" difference between using 4x220 or like the fe 2x220 + 2x470? And in what way would that influence anything?
If you look up pcb back pictures on techpowerup.com it seems a lot are using 470 or 330 and not much using 220.
Maybe there can be another reason you can think if that evga uses 220's maybe they have bigger capacity somewhere else or there power delivery won't need bigger ones or something?
 
It's probably a non issue but i and some others are a bit  querious why most others seems to use bigger ones and sin I have no idea how it really works we just can do one thing and that's ask around :)
 
 
Difference is as they state 220/330/470 atc .., voltage charge. Bit you need to look at the whole card, not only this 6 caps. This 6 caps are only first responders to the immediate call for power/ followed by voltage controller to take you to the right power stage/ then vrm's kick in / then voltage is called from psu( delivery). Evga was always using best vrm capacitors, switches, and everything was tested properly. It's just my opinion that because they used 220mtcc, that tells me what they estimated to be optimum for the given chip with whole that new 8nm process and other changes. I'm sure that card will perform excellent. Bit because some other partner card's didn't implement power delivery properly, I think Nvidia will tune down nv boost feature, otherwise it would be a massive recoil on some brands.

Thanks. I got a another answer of someone who also states that maybe they went with the 220 on these spots for faster loading/unloading as well. But he also stated that to know 100% for sure you need someone who knows the whole design. Als also why they choose with this after testing/prototyping.
 
Anyway it's interesting stuff and I am glad to see so many people with more knowledge are prepared to share some basics. Thanks!
 
I will trust EVGA in that they choose for this setup for a reason compared to bigger caps.
2020/09/27 09:07:31
the_Scarlet_one
Memsar
Does anybody know which design and components evga rtx 3090 kingpin has used? This card has a world record 2.58Ghz with liquid nitrogen!


Nothing will be public about the card, until the card is publicly available. There will be mock ups and tests of the card prior to final release, so changes will still occur before the full release.
2020/09/27 09:22:19
ShaconBacon
Memsar
Does anybody know which design and components evga rtx 3090 kingpin has used? This card has a world record 2.58Ghz with liquid nitrogen!

Nothing has been release yet, but EVGA fixed the problem on the FTW3 so I am assuming they will do the same on the kingpin before they release it. I think it will be fine 
2020/09/27 11:32:21
jayrwar
Frame Chasers on YouTube shunted his XC3 and going from 2000mhz to 2100mhz gave like 2 fps. 2000mhz is max and you are getting diminishing returns with these cards. Even if the Strix is promising 19**Hz it means nothing because you could be over paying for the same thing. 2000hz is proven on FTW cards.
2020/09/27 11:39:49
YURIIII
jayrwar
Frame Chasers on YouTube shunted his XC3 and going from 2000mhz to 2100mhz gave like 2 fps. 2000mhz is max and you are getting diminishing returns with these cards. Even if the Strix is promising 19**Hz it means nothing because you could be over paying for the same thing. 2000hz is proven on FTW cards.

 
What if I buy FTW3 Ultra in that faith that it does +1900MHz no problem, but ends up giving barely 1800MHz which was promised? Can I RMA? Probably not.
 
2020/09/27 11:43:42
ShaconBacon
jayrwar
Frame Chasers on YouTube shunted his XC3 and going from 2000mhz to 2100mhz gave like 2 fps. 2000mhz is max and you are getting diminishing returns with these cards. Even if the Strix is promising 19**Hz it means nothing because you could be over paying for the same thing. 2000hz is proven on FTW cards.

Thanks man! I was looking for a video that covered this 
2020/09/27 11:46:39
ty_ger07
YURIIII
jayrwar
Frame Chasers on YouTube shunted his XC3 and going from 2000mhz to 2100mhz gave like 2 fps. 2000mhz is max and you are getting diminishing returns with these cards. Even if the Strix is promising 19**Hz it means nothing because you could be over paying for the same thing. 2000hz is proven on FTW cards.

 
What if I buy FTW3 Ultra in that faith that it does +1900MHz no problem, but ends up giving barely 1800MHz which was promised? Can I RMA?

You are only guaranteed what is promised. You can't RMA if it meets what is promised.
2020/09/27 11:49:32
C-low18
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