2020/09/26 09:36:48
turboD
I hope more people get scared from this so i can finally get my FTW 3 Ultra !!!! 
2020/09/26 09:39:59
Nisco3000
cptwafflepants
Nisco3000
Mr.Gisoid
 
 



What is concerning is why is EVGA communicating "POSCAPs"?
Is it cause they are reading in too much what the internet is saying?
Or is this not the real real reason why the GPU's are crashing when auto bios OC is applied.

EVGA should talk to their engineers more and give a proper break down, then wrongly communicate the issue on hand.

-edit: no picture-




Most people are associating this issue with POSCAP so it's likely to avoid confusion. It's just the nomenclature that got adopted even though it's not technically correct.



This is my point exactly, confusion is created by the internet and they should correct it with their correct knowledge.
And now that the cat is out the bag why there were just a couple GPU's on launch day. But also this issue could be the second one that Nvidia caused.
2020/09/26 09:48:37
cptwafflepants
sammysea
cptwafflepants
There have been confirmed reports of CTD with XC3 Ultra, I had an order for this card on Amazon but I just canceled it this morning.


Could this be a simple driver or firmware issue, Jacob?




Just for some reference (can't link URLs)
 
Reddit post: Many RTX 3080 users reporting crashes in games (user/IPiracyI's reply for XC3 Ultra)
EVGA post: XC3 BLACK GAMING Crashing in MW: Warzone
 
I know these are isolated instances and we don't know the conditions of their hardware (maybe caused by an under powered PSU or an unstable OC, etc) but the reports are enough that I'd rather just wait a bit than risk dealing with potential RMA's and unstable performance.
 
Hoping it is all a simple driver/firmware fix for those who have these problems.
2020/09/26 09:59:06
Frammish
Guys, it’s like any other components on these boards. There are optimum values that give the best noise suppression, surge delivery capability, or whatever. Even though the boards look similar or even identical, you really can’t compare the cap compliment of one kind of board to another, or one manufacturer to another unless everything is truly the same. We already know at least some values and even component types are different on the different boards. The boards are a system and everything works together to provide a running board.
 
What is important is each manufacturer discovered or was alerted to the issue and took steps to correct it. We can only assume that each manufacturer has or is changing the capacitor combinations on their boards to address the issue.
 
That one board has 5 polys or 4 or none doesn’t really matter. They are *presumably* now optimized for the conditions on that particular board model. It’s very tempting to think the ASUS boards with 6 sets of MLCCs are better but that may or may not be true. What ultimately matters is how clean the power is for the GPU and we don’t know without proper measurements which is truly better.
 
Jacob said that they had already addressed this on various models that have been being sold and they held back the 3080 FTW3 to rework them so those will be proper too when they go out for sale.
 
It was potentially an issue but it’s not now. If you get EVGA boards, the whole issue is already addressed. The only ones who got the “defective” boards were reviewers - not the retail channel - and EVGA is replacing those.
 
I really wouldn’t worry about it now. I’m not. I still want the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra and will still be buying one just as soon as I can get a cart to actually check out.
2020/09/26 10:05:47
TheGingerKid
pbmpharmacist
Why not ALL MLCC like Asus though?

https://youtu.be/x6bUUEEe-X8

should be noted that on asus' website they show the OC with no mlcc , and the non oc with all mlcc. i assume they changed them all to full mlcc , but i havent heard anything from asus on that. (edit: for the tuf 3080* )
2020/09/26 10:21:36
chosn1
Thank goodness!  Was very worried when I saw all the reports.
2020/09/26 10:23:42
YURIIII
TheGingerKid
pbmpharmacist
Why not ALL MLCC like Asus though?

https://youtu.be/x6bUUEEe-X8

should be noted that on asus' website they show the OC with no mlcc , and the non oc with all mlcc. i assume they changed them all to full mlcc , but i havent heard anything from asus on that. (edit: for the tuf 3080* )





Asus is all MLCC, they have stream going on youtube where they clarified this. They didn't say why they did it, but all MLCC it is.
2020/09/26 10:30:44
stefanhondasi
There is photo I found. Can someone clearify what they used?

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2020/09/26 10:35:10
Avolate
If the FE and TUFF are crashing still then maybe the there is a flaw in the power delivery design that cant be totally fixed with higher quality caps. 
2020/09/26 10:38:02
stefanhondasi
I agree

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