2020/09/25 19:13:17
mgpickens
I am still concerned about the launch now.
We have had the issue with the 3rd fan on the initial batch of XC 3080's that went out the door.
Now we have this capacitor specification issue that "doesn't affect the XC series" because they aren't supposed to be able to overclock to the point that the caps become an issue?  This will be another firmware fix.
 
Seems like everyone should let the cards cool off and let the manufacturers and earliest adopters get these bugs and any other ones that may pop up resolved.
I was sick to my stomach canceling my FTW3 from NewEgg.  I would be sicker though to have a card that may or may not justify it's $810 price compared to a competitor or the FE edition.
 
I still have my EVGA 970 and a EVGA 980Ti...  Guess I will see how things go over the next 2 months.
 
How is EVGA even going to handle a Step-Up program for the 3070 series cards when people will have paid up to and over $600 for 2070 Supers?  The 3070 FE is going to be $499.  That is cheaper than even the 2070 super KO went for.
2020/09/25 19:15:20
rain2_usa
kyllin
I don't understand how 1 good square in the Ultra is good enough.  The other's with 1 at regular boost speeds are crashing.  And the FTW's have 2 with the same boost.


Can you reference who's saying that who shows valid proof that is indeed crashing with 5+10 (1 MLCC)?  
2020/09/25 19:15:41
powermix24
EVGA is the only card I will buy, 1070, 1080ti, 2080ti, and soon 3080 FTW Ultra.
2020/09/25 19:20:33
tresnugget
kyllin
How does the XC3 ultra run ok with only 1 of the good squares, but the FTW3 with the same boost needs 2??  Somebody smart please answer.


Let's not forget that the ftw cards have 3x 8 pin pcie supplementary power with a significantly higher power target giving it higher OC headroom.
2020/09/25 19:25:52
jones177
Thanks for fixing the images on the product pages.
They were a bit confusing.
2020/09/25 19:26:01
ragzilla
kyllin
I don't understand how 1 good square in the Ultra is good enough.  The other's with 1 at regular boost speeds are crashing.  And the FTW's have 2 with the same boost.

There are 2 "core" rails for the 3000 series dies.  1 rail is for the GPU core itself (NVVDD) and a second is for the "uncore" (MSVDD).  The NVVDD is likely more sensitive to voltage transients.  It's similar to the difference between Vcore and VCCIO/VCCSA on your CPU.
2020/09/25 19:28:34
Aiveey
Hi Jacob, are you able to let us know what capacitance the individual MLCC decoupling caps are? For those like me who may want to push their XC3s to high clocks under extreme cooling And are happy to void their warranty by installing these ourselves. Thanks mate.
2020/09/25 19:32:10
marteinnorn
And this is why I'll always stick with EVGA. Thanks for he clarification Jacob. Very much appreciated. 
2020/09/25 19:37:45
omega4
My last card was an EVGA 1080Ti FTW3.
 
Based on the latest findings, I will most likely get the ASUS equivalent of the 3080 FTW Ultra card.
 
ASUS is using the 60 MLCC (i.e. 6 "good squares") configuration.
 
While it's probably overkill and the MLCC won't last as long as the POSCAPs, chances are I will replace the 3080 card long before deterioration sets in. Plus, the ASUS price isn't that much more than the equivalent EVGA card.

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