2021/10/26 06:12:50
jonny5alive_
GreenSlug
Oh wait Canada isnt much farther then Georgia lol Enjoy you're GPU when you get it Man, cheers!

Still no update. According to UPS it hasn't reached Atlanta yet and it's supposed to be in CA tomorrow. :( Has yours moved yet? 
2021/10/26 06:36:22
GreenSlug
Hmm that's weird, unless they don't scan it until they get to California. Sometimes the delivery CS reps only know so much. Had trouble sleeping and checked tracking and it arrived in Cali early this morning. I did ship mine out on Wednesday not sure when you shipped you'res out though, could've been later which makes sense maybe.? I had a bad feeling about my package but could just be psych ward paranoia lmfao

I was doing a bunch of shipping research and found a lot of people said it seemed they didn't scan the package but it arrived on time or maybe a day late. Did you use UPS?
2021/10/26 07:37:51
jonny5alive_
Glad yours updated! I dropped mine off at UPS Friday morning. It left For ATL on Saturday. Maybe it just won't update until it arrives.

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2021/10/26 07:52:52
GreenSlug
Okay yeah that definitely makes sense since you dropped it off 2+ days later. It will get there for sure. Mine arrived and left Hodgkings really early on Saturday and was on a train I'm pretty sure. You will probably for sure get an update today or tomorrow morning. Mine is pretty much right beside Brea California so yours will likely be right there as well and out for delivery same day. Sorry to worry you it just sucks not being able to see where it is always and worry about it being lost.
2021/10/26 08:30:49
Slabs
phildemers4321
I live in Canada and applied for the 3080 on November 21st 2020. Anyone knows if EVGA accepts Canadian consumers? Will they ship in Canada?

My 3080 has arrived in Vancouver, Canada VERY quickly from California, basically overnight, in spite of apparently taking a ride through Kentucky (!). It has not been delivered at home yet but I have received a customs bill from UPS. Basically CAD$10 to UPS for brokerage and CAD$94 for GST/PST. The taxes were calculated on the difference between my returned card and the cost of the new card so I cannot really complain I guess. Expecting the 3080 to be delivered later today
2021/10/26 08:55:47
GreenSlug
Did you use worldwide expedited? I heard there shouldn't be any customs charges for that delivery option and being an rma. Maybe it depends where in Canada?
2021/10/26 09:17:35
Slabs
No, I used the standard UPS Worldwide Saver Express. I have not yet received my parcel so I do not have the detail of the declaration that EVGA put on the export documentation. In spite of it being an RMA, what I would expect EVGA to have done is to declare the INCREASE IN VALUE between the two cards, i.e. what I had to pay excluding shipping, as the declared value of the shipment on the customs declaration. If that is the case and while nothing in life is certain, I would be very surprised if Canada Customs would NOT charge GST/PST on this balance. In my case, looking at the numbers, that certainly seems to be what has happened. Because of this "standard mechanism", I must admit I cannot see how using Worldwide Expedited could avoid this process generally and result in zero customs charges. If anybody has documented proof of this happening I would appreciate seeing the documentation involved.
 
FWIW I will look at the EVGA customs declaration on the box when I get the card and comment back.
 
EDIT: FWIW, on a "pure" repair RMA where you send a card across the border for a repair by the vendor and get the repaired card back I can certainly understand no GST/PST being charged because there was no intrinsic change in value of the item shipped. But in this case where the product you receive back is different from the one you initially shipped I really expect charges to apply. 
2021/10/26 10:07:46
GreenSlug
Yeah I am not sure a mixed bag when searching for information regarding taxes and tariffs. I will write here as well, maybe it depends on area, driver etc.
2021/10/26 10:40:34
Slabs
OK, all of the above and following is based on my (quite possibly fallible...) understanding of cross-border shipping and taxing. But in my defense I must say I have bought a lot of hobby stuff from the US over the years.
 
While there seems to be discretion from the Canada customs agent's side whether or not to charge taxes, in my experience this typically only gets waived/ignored in pretty low value shipments. For instance: from what I have seen, the customs agents seem to consider all the hassles of the paperwork to receive the GST/PST on a trivial (say less than $50) commercial invoice/declared value to not be worth the time and effort. I suspect it costs more than they gain. But when it comes to a couple hundred dollars or more (as in this case), then it certainly does not generally get waived.
 
I do not believe EVGA or UPS really has any legal "wiggle room" on what they are supposed to do. "Legal" of course being an important qualifier. EVGA HAS to accurately fill out the customs declaration and commercial invoice and UPS HAS to submit the shipper's customs documentation at the port of entry. In this case, I believe EVGA has to appropriately document the increase in value (basically your step-up cost invoice from EVGA, which in my case was like US$600 plus shipping which I had to pay), and UPS then has to submit that. If this is indeed the case, I really struggle to see how taxes would not be attracted.
 
A few thoughts apply:
 
* I might be totally misreading the principles involved. Not the first time that would have happened... 
* I am not sure that things would differ by region. Customs is a Canada federal "thing" and SHOULD therefore be consistent across the country.
*  The UPS driver absolutely has no role to play in this: he just collects or does not collect whatever he is instructed to collect or not collect. By the time the parcel gets into his hands whatever brokerage/taxes/duties that apply have long since been determined by the appropriate people and the paperwork prepared accordingly.
*  It is possible that the importation costs can be pre-paid. This is a big eBay thing at the moment where they have their Global Shipping Program. They calculate shipping, brokerage and all taxes and duties at the time of the sale and that gets paid up front by the buyer. But either way, this means that you have to pay the brokerage fee, the taxes and possible duties ahead of time.
*  Somebody is naughty and deviates from the requirements.
 
2021/10/26 12:37:48
mikesherwood74
I just got my Step 2 email, 5 minutes after I came here to check the step up progress. I was thinking I should be hearing back soon. Stoked! 1/9/2021 when I started the process.

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