AHowes
Last year it was a month after the kingpin release before evga released the water block for it. Priced at a scary $350.

Kingpin was $1900 and not sold with the hydro copper block.

So my guess is $2500 total. :/

Puts it into perspective when the last 2089ti kingpin was released in april 2019. Not a whole lot of time.

Wait, is that normally how Kingpin are sold? water block is separate?
Thought they were either included or separate like non kingpins

Last year they were sold separate. Maybe because the blocks weren't ready yet..I dont think it ever changed later either.

I had that rad hanging in my case as their was no where to mount it for a month while I waited for the copper block release. Hehe.

I'd do the same again if needed.

Is the kingpin itself considered a hydro copper or is completely different?

arcky
Is the kingpin itself considered a hydro copper or is completely different?

It is completely different. It usually is the absolute pinnacle of GPU development. The best everything. This Kingpin will have a hybrid AIO with a 360mm radiator and they said they plan on having waterblocks available at some point.

Is it usually worth waiting for these? 

It depends what kind of card you want. These are the best of the best. The highest quality silicone, with the best power delivery, and actual voltage control. These are the cards overclockers put under ln2 to set records. If you like messing around overclocking your system to squeeze the most out of it, then this is the card for you. Most people would be better off with a ftw3 either air or hydro copper, imo 
 

ReZpawN
Is it usually worth waiting for these? 

It's pretty much the best gaming experience you can get right now to own the current generation of Kingpin card. That said you need a very powerful CPU and monitor to really take advantage of a Kingpin.

Hoggle

ReZpawN
Is it usually worth waiting for these? 

It's pretty much the best gaming experience you can get right now to own the current generation of Kingpin card. That said you need a very powerful CPU and monitor to really take advantage of a Kingpin.

lmao

They aren’t any different than say a FTW3 for just gaming. The performance is literally essentially the same. The 30 series has been shown to have almost zero OC headroom. The KP card won’t be much different. It’ll OC a little higher than some other high end cards based on the higher power limit, but it won’t be significant. Maybe 2-3 FPS at most in specific scenarios. Other than the big AIO cooler or Hydrocopper, it’s going to perform the exact same as a higher end card for just every day gaming.

The only advantage of the card is for XOC or benchmarking. That’s where it really shines.

HawkOculus

Hoggle

ReZpawN
Is it usually worth waiting for these? 

It's pretty much the best gaming experience you can get right now to own the current generation of Kingpin card. That said you need a very powerful CPU and monitor to really take advantage of a Kingpin.

lmao

They aren’t any different than say a FTW3 for just gaming. The performance is literally essentially the same. The 30 series has been shown to have almost zero OC headroom. The KP card won’t be much different. It’ll OC a little higher than some other high end cards based on the higher power limit, but it won’t be significant. Maybe 2-3 FPS at most in specific scenarios. Other than the big AIO cooler or Hydrocopper, it’s going to perform the exact same as a higher end card for just every day gaming.

The only advantage of the card is for XOC or benchmarking. That’s where it really shines.

I agree you won't see too much of a difference in gaming.  It's all about clocks and benches.  

Speaking of which...
 
....how about a 2.580 Ghz RTX 3090 Kingpin on LN2. 
 

2080Ti FE 1199
2080Ti FTW3  1500    +25.10%
2080Ti KPE  1900      +58.47%
 
3090 FE  1499      
3090 FTW3  1800     +20.08%
3090 KPE    2300~2400   +53.43% ~ 60.11%