Thank you all. Anyone happen to know if extended warranty and EAR are in play for it as well? Forgot to ask originally, as both in my opinion make the EVGA experience a pleasant one. I am getting the impression to stay away from it which is fine. Stepping down from a 2080ti kinda sucks, to be honest, but I don't want to be left holding the bag when Ampere drops, and I am not seeing any options out there in the price range which actually should mean good things for my existing card. I appreciate you both taking the time to respond.