ty_ger07If it is dialog that you are after, add more than just a subwoofer to the center channel.  Wire in a subwoofer in line with a low pass filter (if it doesn't already have one incorporated) AND wire in a mid-range speaker in line with a high pass filter (if it doesn't already have one incorporated) in parallel with the subwoofer.

I just wanted to review the information to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding anything and I really think you're on to something here. I have a 7.1 system, but 5 of the speakers aren't full-range speakers. You're saying I just need to get five powered subwoofers with line-level pass-through (probably a built-in low-pass filter) and run each of the 'small' speakers through their own sub instead of depending on the sound card mixing low frequencies to the one subwoofer typically dedicated to that task? That's genius. Why do people even have 7.1 or 7.2 when they could have 7.5 or even 7.8? The sky's the limit.

satsun

ty_ger07If it is dialog that you are after, add more than just a subwoofer to the center channel.  Wire in a subwoofer in line with a low pass filter (if it doesn't already have one incorporated) AND wire in a mid-range speaker in line with a high pass filter (if it doesn't already have one incorporated) in parallel with the subwoofer.

I just wanted to review the information to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding anything and I really think you're on to something here. I have a 7.1 system, but 5 of the speakers aren't full-range speakers. You're saying I just need to get five powered subwoofers with line-level pass-through (probably a built-in low-pass filter) and run each of the 'small' speakers through their own sub instead of depending on the sound card mixing low frequencies to the one subwoofer typically dedicated to that task? That's genius. Why do people even have 7.1 or 7.2 when they could have 7.5 or even 7.8? The sky's the limit.

What are you talking about?  Placing subs on any other channel makes no sense.  Bass is monotone in the center channel.  There is no need for a crossover to "push" low-frequency content to the center channel.  It is already there.  And there is no reason to put subs on other channels because the bass isn't there.
 
Like I said:

ty_ger07
No one produces audio with low frequency ("subwoofer") audio on only one left or right, front or back audio channel. Everyone produces bass content as monotone which occupies the "center" channel. Therefore, there is no crossover needed, unless you feel that your speakers are not working properly, or you feel that the record producer knows less than you do.

Like I said, add filters if you insist. You can easily do it; no software needed. Plug into all of the audio outputs, perform whatever crossover you want, and then connect your speakers to that. But don't blame EVGA for failing to do some goofy audiophile niche thing. If EVGA wanted to chase the audiophile niche-thing rabbit hole, they would find no end.

No one who is respectable, produces stereophonic bass. Why? Because the human ear is not good at localizing low frequencies. It's monotone. It's on the center channel. It doesn't need to be directed from the left channel or the right channel to the center channel. It is already in the center channel.

The bass remaining on the individual left, right, front, and back channels is the bass content (likely mid-range content actually) that the record producer or artist wanted to be there. They had full control when they recorded it and released it. All the bass on the center channel is what they wanted. Not enough? Add an amplifier to your sub. Center channel bass frequency too high for your sub? Add a low-pass filter before your sub because the sub's manufacturer apparently forgot to.  And if your individual speakers can't handle the mid-range content due to some defect or design issue, add a high-pass filter to them.

When you make this request, you are making 2 statements:
1) My favorite artist and/or producer is dumber than me.
2) My speakers don't perform to my expectations, and I think it is my sound card's job to fix that.

Both seem a little absurd to me.

 
That is the topic of this thread.
 
 
What I am say is that you don't need to do ANYTHING.  But, if you still aren't happy because dialog on the center channel is too bass-y, you could add ONE mid-range speaker to the center channel.  It's really simple.  I don't know why you are over-complicating it.

Hello everybody,
 
due to my purchase of the nu audio pro 7.1 I first want to say that Im very happy that I finally got a propper upgrade to my Xfi extreme music from back in the days. After reading all these posts I still do not understand how to get this problem solved. The "bass management" checkbox is not offered to me in Win 10 and my AV Reciever (Onkyo TX-SR606) is not performing as it should and did while connecting it via HDMI to graphics card. I only get bass when I activate either "all channels set" to get a 7.1 upmix or put it in stereo mode. This means listening to music is solved; but when i switch to "pure audio" or "direct" mode, the subwoofer remains silent, as well as in games. I do not know if this is a problem of my poor knowledge, or of the reciever, but with HDMI and my old soundcard it worked (after checking the box of bass management) in either the creative soundcard control or in win 10 control section. But it seems to be missing in win 10. Im glad to not be the only person missing this and any hardware or thirt party software is not what I search for, it is simly the checkbox to activate bass management and set it to propper 80 hz. Furthermore the reciever tells me that the sound is for example DTS HD Master Audio when playing it via HDMI. The nu audio pro stays silent when using the windows player, I only do get sound from it when using VLC and choosing the right audio signal - this then sounds amazing - so Im willing to take this effort. Last point to be mentioned is that via soundcard or HDMI I can choose 7.1 in the windows speaker settings, win 10 does not seem to offer this to me when using the nu audio pro. Anyone else is experiencing this? I do not know how hard a driver update it, to fix this bass management problem, but this is the last step that I need to get things done. If anyone here can name a AVR that is doing the job, please feel free to add any. If I test the speakers when clicking on the windows sound controll I do get a signal out of every speaker, when testing it with the nu audio pro software, the sub remains silent. futhermore does sub work in 7.1 dts / dolby tracks but not ingame. Thank you very much for helping! 
 
 
best regards
 
sX

Dear sX1337, there is presently no way to make it work correctly because EVGA has not provided a feature in the drivers to route low-frequency content properly onto the C/Sub channel. All I can suggest is that you petition them to do what literally every other (pro-)sumer card already does and offer the option in their drivers. Sorry.

To everyone looking for bass management on the NU Audio Pro 7.1, there seems to be a very simple solution: Uninstall the NU Audio apps/drivers, and then reinstall but exclude Nahimic EQ when given the option. Nahimic apparently overrides other Windows audio enhancements. Without Nahimic EQ installed, the Bass Management option returned to the Sound Control Panel:
 

 
Of course, this also means that you lose EQ capabilities inside the NU Audio app. Equalizer APO is an excellent alternative (and more powerful).

thank you going to check

Dear 4,
 
thank you very much for posting this information, the Windows audio enhancements are back, so is the LFE in games. 
 
now there is bass in musik, too. even if the AVR is in multichannel mode. #gamechanger
 
EVGA NU Audio Pro_1.0.1.0_WIN10 -> install without Nahimic EQ.
 
cheers,
 
sX

jll544
To everyone looking for bass management on the NU Audio Pro 7.1, there seems to be a very simple solution: Uninstall the NU Audio apps/drivers, and then reinstall but exclude Nahimic EQ when given the option. Nahimic apparently overrides other Windows audio enhancements. Without Nahimic EQ installed, the Bass Management option returned to the Sound Control Panel:
 
Of course, this also means that you lose EQ capabilities inside the NU Audio app. is an excellent alternative (and more powerful).

Thank you for finding this for us.  I can verify that the digital crossover works using your method.  It just sucks that we lose the equalizer (and a few other features) as well.
Please EVGA, get this in your software!  I wonder if they ever read these forums...

Thank you jll544, reinstalling the NU audio app and drivers without Nahimic EQ fixed the base Management issue where I could enable it in windows. 

Hah, I bought this card back in May and this was the first issue I noticed. I contacted tech support and they told me to make sure the motherboard's realtek drivers were removed and disabled in bios and to reinstall NU audio drivers -something I had already done prior to installation. I rarely use the 5.1 hooked up to my old school Z5500s, so I never bothered to trouble shoot further. Glad I'm not the only one having this issue. I wonder if they will be fixed in a driver update since the last one was back in March. I'll try to reinstall w/o Nahimic like everyone else and see if that works.