2020/02/26 10:20:02
kevinc313
boylerya
You are both wrong: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-big-navi-gpus-are-fake-sk-hynik-refutes-2tbps-hbm2e-claims
Once again showing how wccftech is the garbage news of the internet that I have stated time and time again yet you guys hold onto their information as gold.  But hey, NVIDIA socks information is fake news and should be removed from the Computer Industry News Section, but yet wccftech is acceptable when ive stated countless times it should not be in this section.  Here we are once again with the obvious.




I could agree to that - ban WCCF articles from this forum.
2020/02/26 11:43:11
ty_ger07
Ban the socks!
2020/02/26 12:16:36
atfrico
Ban the hippies nonbelievers😾
2020/02/26 12:37:36
Xavier Zepherious
Just to point out, SK Hynix does indeed have 4 Gb/s HBM2e stacks which they showcased last week at ISSCC-2020 as stated in a reply to the leaker by Twitter user Hans De Vries.
 
so HK Hynix saying they don't have the HBM2e that can go that fast = they just showcased it at isscc-2020 
 

 
so HK Hynix is Misrepresenting the truth....maybe
 
 
That's 512 GB/s for the die stack(16GB per chip here- 128/8bits=16GB) on a 1024 Bus
on a 4096 bus that would be 512GB's x4(for 4x1024) = 2 TB/s
 
but 12GB Vid card means 4GB sticks and 4 of them - one used for ECC so instead of 16GB you have 12 GB.... maybe
i mean you are NOT going to have 6GB HBM2E or 3GB HBM2E stacks
 
 
otherwise you use 1 chip - that means 1024 bus or 2 chips on 2048 bus - that means 8GB,16GB,24GB,32GB or 48GB
the larger the bus the better for bandwidth and more chips means more ram - and you might as well go for denser ram
 
they also said they were doing 12-high stack - which would be 768GB/s min per stack in a previous story - which if pushed like samsung could maybe do 1TB/s
 
 
 posted Dec 
 
For HBMe, manufacturers such as Micron, Samsung or SK Hynix simply use 2 GB dies instead of those with 1 GB, which increases the storage density per stack to 16 GB. The new high bandwidth memory with 24 GB, on the other hand, is a 12-Hi design with an I / O die and ergo twelve DRAM chips with 2 GB each. The data rate is 2.4 GBit / s per stack and thus the data transfer rate of a 3D stack on a 1,024-bit channel is around 307 GByte / s.
 
https://www.golem.de/news/high-bandwidth-memory-jedec-spezifiziert-stapelspeicher-mit-24-gbyte-1812-138299.html
 
if they can achieve 512GB/s per stack then with 4 chips at you would have 2 TB/s and 96GB ram or 192GB with 8 stacks - like ampere titan
 
HK might be sly and say it's fake because it not in full production yet and just test production
 
 
2020/02/26 14:16:53
z999z3mystorys
the idea that Ampere titan could have up to 96 GB of this memory is... a lot.
 
I could see 24GB on consumer cards, AMD or Nvidia, and maybe 48GB on titan/professional cards. 96GB on anything at this time is a bit hard to swallow.
 
But the fact that memory at this speed is out there is nice. even a card with 16 GB and this memory I expect would work for the high end consumer cards.
2020/02/26 15:31:14
Xavier Zepherious

SK Hynix Announces 3.6 Gbps HBM2E Memory For 2020: 1.8 TB/sec For Next-Gen Accelerators

SK Hynix this morning has thrown their hat into the ring as the second company to announce memory based on the HBM2E standard. While the company isn’t using any kind of flash name for the memory (ala Samsung’s Flashbolt), the idea is the same: releasing faster and higher density HBM2 memory for the next generation of high-end processors. Hynix’s HBM2E memory will reach up to 3.6 Gbps, which as things currently stand, will make it the fastest HBM2E memory on the market when it ships in 2020.
 
Not to be left behind, SK Hynix is now also readying their own HBM2E memory. In terms of performance, SK Hynix says that their memory will be able to clock at up to 3.6 Gbps/pin, which would give a full 1024-pin stack a total of 460GB/sec of memory bandwidth, and in the process the lead for HBM2E memory speeds. And for more advanced devices which employ multiple stacks (e.g. server GPUs), this means a 4-stack processor could be paired up with as much as 1.84TB/sec of memory bandwidth, a massive amount by any measure. Meanwhile their capacity is doubling, from 8 Gb/layer to 16 Gb/layer, allowing a full 8-Hi stack to reach a total of 16GB. It’s worth noting that the revised HBM2 standard actually allows for 12-Hi stacks, for a total of 24GB/stack, however we’ve yet to see anyone announce memory quite that dense.
 
 
so 1.8T/s is acheiveable with 4 chips with this ram
and the one above is over 2TB/s
460GB/s vs 512 GB/s above
 
samsung can do 640GB/s on one chip thats 2.5TB/s with 4 chips on a 4096 bus
 
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14733/sk-hynix-announces-36-gbps-hbm2e-memory-for-2020
 
 

SK Hynix Licenses DBI Ultra Interconnect for Next-Gen 3DS and HBM DRAM


 
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15498/sk-hynix-licenses-dbi-ultra-interconnect-for-nextgen-3ds-hbm-dram
 
 
2020/02/26 17:02:45
atfrico
You hear that? 😳Its the crickets telling the hippies i told you so😹😹😹😼
2020/02/26 20:41:15
boylerya
atfrico
You hear that? 😳Its the crickets telling the hippies i told you so😹😹😹😼

Actually its me not caring enough to bother.  Ill just wait for the actual launch before coming back and pointing out who is lacking intelligence.
2020/02/26 20:55:03
atfrico
boylerya
atfrico
You hear that? 😳Its the crickets telling the hippies i told you so😹😹😹😼

Actually its me not caring enough to bother.  Ill just wait for the actual launch before coming back and pointing out who is lacking intelligence.

Its on like Donkey Kong😉. Lets find out who is the one lacking intelligence. I even have the meme ready for the moment😼
2020/03/05 16:38:36
Xavier Zepherious
AMD’s Next-Gen RDNA2 Radeon RX “Navi 2x” GPUs To Feature 50% Better Performance Per Watt, HW-Accelerated Ray Tracing, VRS & More
 
 
https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-navi-2x-rdna2-gpus-2x-performance-ray-tracing-2020-launch/
 
 
Watch The AMD Financial Analyst Day 2020 Webcast Livestream Here – Zen 3, Zen 4, RDNA2, RDNA3, Next-Gen EPYC & More
 
https://wccftech.com/watch-the-amd-financial-analyst-day-2020-webcast-livestream-here-zen-3-rdna2-next-gen-epyc-more/
 
 

 
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