2019/11/18 22:06:43
GTXJackBauer
kevinc313
 
The i9-10960X will be out shortly for around $850-900 and will match or beat the 3950X.  The 9900k and 9900ks still beat them both in high FPS gaming.




In what sense do you mean they are better when the others are at least I thought more powerful chips?  I figured if you can clock them high up at their speed, should be the same if not more no?
2019/11/18 22:54:19
Vlada011
kevinc313
I find it very difficult to take AMD seriously because they got rid of their IC fab ten years ago.  
 
I'm guessing that people getting all riled up about "muh 7nm process" don't really understand that AMD stopped fabbing their own chips.




I have impression that many people switch to AMD without any needs with processors almost equal in applications they used mostly, 90% of time.
Only because AMD have good processors they upgrade whole platform and change memory on different type of DDR4 designed for AMD, new motherboards AM4 and they still had usefull platform as Z370, Z390 or X99/X299. 
No any reason to customers with first gen of Skylake-X 8 cores and X299 switch to new Ryzen.
Lifetime of X299 will be enough for any needs until DDR5 show up. Then motherboards will have better Intel Network Contoller, newer USB 4.0, maybe even newer PCI-E Interface then AMD. 
2019/11/18 23:44:56
vegajf51
kevinc313
Obviously the "AMD stomps Intel" meme is quite a bit overblown.  The i9-9960x was just on closeout for $799, it's very close to the 3950X.  The i9-10960X will be out shortly for around $850-900 and will match or beat the 3950X.  The 9900k and 9900ks still beat them both in high FPS gaming.  
 
AMD has released some competitive processors, but they are no real threat to Intel.



 


 
There is no new i9-10960x coming..... you are just making stuff up.
 
I will also say that the new cascade lake i9-10980xe will lose to the 3950x in many more benchmarks than it should. Out of the box single core performance being one of them, and of course power efficiency. It will be better though overclocked. Then again we are talking about Intel's top of the line HEDT part going up against a mainstream part.
 
AMD has better single core performance in many applications, due to higher IPC. Intel mainstream has much better latency though and does better at latency sensitive applications, which is why they are still better at gaming. Intel HEDT doesn't have a ringbus like intel mainstream so some what loses it best advantage over Ryzen 3K, its still better at latency but not much unless overclocking the mesh.
 
Now I am not saying the i9-10980xe if can be had for $1000 isn't a good cpu or even a great buy, its actually a great processor. I have heard it will be very low volume and will probably be sold out constantly but I hope she was incorrect and it will be actually obtainable. As many early X299 processors are looking very slow compared to even other intel parts (looking at you 7900x) and it would be great upgrade for many. 
2019/11/19 04:04:21
transdogmifier
If Intel disregards AMD they'll be in trouble....and 'beat' the 3950 ..by how much? 5%? Is the 5% worth another 150 bucks? (to me it isn't when you're talking 1 second difference in time taken to render something..but that's me)
 
 
2019/11/19 05:54:22
kevinc313
GTXJackBauer
kevinc313
 
The i9-10960X will be out shortly for around $850-900 and will match or beat the 3950X.  The 9900k and 9900ks still beat them both in high FPS gaming.




In what sense do you mean they are better when the others are at least I thought more powerful chips?  I figured if you can clock them high up at their speed, should be the same if not more no?




I'm basing my comments off these early benchmarks.  
 
https://youtu.be/stM2CPF9YAY?t=263
 
 
2019/11/19 06:02:09
kevinc313
vegajf51
There is no new i9-10960x coming..... you are just making stuff up.


The shady media is making stuff up.
 
https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-10980xe-18-core-cascade-lake-x-cpu-benchmarks-leak/
 
I suppose one is not specifically listed for the "Cascade Lake-X" launch, but they are reasonably expecting one to be released, given that there was a 7960x and 9960x. 
2019/11/19 08:10:47
vegajf51
kevinc313
vegajf51
There is no new i9-10960x coming..... you are just making stuff up.


The shady media is making stuff up.
 
https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-10980xe-18-core-cascade-lake-x-cpu-benchmarks-leak/
 
I suppose one is not specifically listed for the "Cascade Lake-X" launch, but they are reasonably expecting one to be released, given that there was a 7960x and 9960x. 


You will see, no 16 core is coming, 18 core yes, just no 16 core. I got this from a very reliable person, she has 100% correct track record on her info. Not to say she could be wrong but she hasn't yet :-) 
2019/11/19 08:40:25
kevinc313
vegajf51
kevinc313
vegajf51
There is no new i9-10960x coming..... you are just making stuff up.


The shady media is making stuff up.
 
https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-10980xe-18-core-cascade-lake-x-cpu-benchmarks-leak/
 
I suppose one is not specifically listed for the "Cascade Lake-X" launch, but they are reasonably expecting one to be released, given that there was a 7960x and 9960x. 


You will see, no 16 core is coming, 18 core yes, just no 16 core. I got this from a very reliable person, she has 100% correct track record on her info. Not to say she could be wrong but she hasn't yet :-) 




Great, thanks for trying to provide correct info.  Very interesting if they won't have a 16 core product to go head to head with the 3950X.
2019/11/19 11:51:47
RainStryke
MadmanRB
Well the main reason why samsung is ignored is that they are more a factor in mobile and yeah mobile markets get ignored by us techies as we like our old fashioned X86 CISC style processors and our standard computer desktops.
Though Samsungs dominance has not escaped me, they have become a juggernaut and will be very hard to ignore quite soon.




There is a good chance they are going to be making all of Nvidia's next gen GPU's.
https://www.techradar.com/news/7nm-nvidia-gpus-could-come-in-2020-through-partnership-with-samsung

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Yeah, Intel dropped the i9 10960X all together, it's not even on their product page:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/x-series.html
2019/11/19 12:27:50
kevinc313
There has been some conjecture that they are purposely holding back the i9-10960X so they can release a chip that solidly competes with the 3950X.  
 
It's a glaring omission if they don't release one.

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