They probably could just take the average per day people hit for the first week of the month (since some people hit goals and stop) and then times that by 28 days for the shortest month and come up with the goal range based on 15% below that number for the low tier and 15% higher for the second tier. The difference between the two tiers of course would be 30% and allow people without the latest greatest have a shot at least hitting the low tier.

Hoggle
They probably could just take the average per day people hit for the first week of the month (since some people hit goals and stop) and then times that by 28 days for the shortest month and come up with the goal range based on 15% below that number for the low tier and 15% higher for the second tier. The difference between the two tiers of course would be 30% and allow people without the latest greatest have a shot at least hitting the low tier.

That would be hard with WU being so spread apart from each.
Also we have times when they are Down and cannot get WU as well as some can get WU that now take up to 5 Hours to complete.
Then some WU take leas than 2 Hours to complete. It is just to hard to use a Percent or Average on Folding.
Remember to that the Status Sever goes down all the time or at least it seems so.
So you could go days without Points then one day with multi million when the normal is less than 1 million per day.

I suspect many here are already thinking this. But...
 
There was a time that EVGA increased the goals on nearly an annual basis. This is not new, yet needed. Each time they raised the bar, we have had the same "You will lose a lot of your folders" comments as well as "Thank you for continuing the program".
 
There is no perfect solution.
 
With that said...
 
For those challenging the new levels... If you are 100% honest with yourselves, your not folding for the EVGA bucks, correct? It is an added bonus to your personal reasons for folding. It is not your driving force.
 
My only reason for reminding us of that point is because, at times, we can fixate on a piece of a program and lose sight of all the other parts.
 
Fold on and thank you for all that you do!

Afterburner
I suspect many here are already thinking this. But...
 
There was a time that EVGA increased the goals on nearly an annual basis. This is not new, yet needed. Each time they raised the bar, we have had the same "You will lose a lot of your folders" comments as well as "Thank you for continuing the program".
 
There is no perfect solution.
 
With that said...
 
For those challenging the new levels... If you are 100% honest with yourselves, your not folding for the EVGA bucks, correct? It is an added bonus to your personal reasons for folding. It is not your driving force.
 
My only reason for reminding us of that point is because, at times, we can fixate on a piece of a program and lose sight of all the other parts.
 
Fold on and thank you for all that you do!

No one is denying that points should not increase, its the level of increase that is being debated.  I appreciate your idealistic point of view, but if your ultimate goal is personal reasons shouldn't you favor a program that maximizes our collective output?  The entire nature of the program is distributed computing and the contribution of the many far outweighs the contribution of the individual.
 
I also understand how difficult it is for EVGA to address a multitude of issues they are currently attempting to address and won't complain with whatever the ultimately decide upon. 
 
If I am 100% honest, I'm not sure if I'm folding for the EVGA bucks.  EVGA bucks honestly are a fun motivation for me, providing a target to hit provides a small level of accomplishment among the unending slog of WUs.  The only way to know that with certainty is for the program to end and see who continues folding.  That being said, however, I have not been one that stops folding once I hit the requirement for the bucks.  I fully recognize that not everyone takes this same approach and unfortunately I don't know that there is a good way to address it without making the administration of the program unnecessarily complex. 

I started folding because I bought an EVGA GPU and visiting their site I saw the folding program.  That also introduced me to the crunching side of things with the fallout that ensued when CPU folding became essentially obsolete.  If I wasn't able to hit the targets in the first couple months before being bitten by the folding bug, I'm not sure that I would have continued. 

After some reflection, I think the best part of the Year 12 announcement is the dynamic nature of the points targets.  Given the uncertain nature of the folding landscape and WUs as well as the release of new GPUs that does not coincide with the folding year, it seems long overdue. 
 
The current debate around folding may be a good time to consider adding a 3rd tier to the program as a fair compromise.  I have previously advocated increasing the bucks to 12 or 13 to keep pace with inflation https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=10&year1=200503&year2=201812 and 4/4/4 would work nicely for something like 8M, 16M and 32M.  This would still work with the 10 buck total for something like 4/3/3 for 8M, 16M and 25M.  

Just throwing around some ideas...

troy8d
 
No one is denying that points should not increase, its the level of increase that is being debated.  I appreciate your idealistic point of view, but if your ultimate goal is personal reasons shouldn't you favor a program that maximizes our collective output? 

I am not denying the debate, I am participating in it. Yes (To answer your question). And if you are asking me if I should support all the collective output, I never suggested I would not. More than once I have provided similar input to that point. If you are asking if EVGA should...
 
I believe they have. And I also believe they still hold true to the real driver for folding is not in the Bucks but in the desire of the person to do it.
 
Please remember, I am a member too. I have no input on what EVGA decides. If I did, do you not think we would have three or four tiers in folding and some kind of a program for the crunching efforts by now? 
 
I also understand the time energy money and effort those that fold and crunch spend. And all have a right to offer their input and the more that do the more EVGA listens. They are not going to listen to just a handful of folks.
 

troy8d
If I am 100% honest, I'm not sure if I'm folding for the EVGA bucks.  EVGA bucks honestly are a fun motivation for me, providing a target to hit provides a small level of accomplishment among the unending slog of WUs.  

 
Thank you for your input. 

We need the other 580 active folders to chime in, where is everyone?
 
 

bill1024
We need the other 580 active folders to chime in, where is everyone?

I rarely comment on these forums, because I'm one of those people that fold until the 4m mark (which takes about 3 weeks on my 970, which is also my primary gaming card), and then turn it off for the month, and the sentiment towards "people like me" is pretty obvious.  It's not a very welcome one.  
 
That said, I will probably stop folding until I can manage to upgrade my hardware, since even the 10m mark is completely outside the realm of possibility for my card.  The 20x0 series just doesn't provide enough upgrade for the price, although the generous amount of evga bucks I've gotten since I bought my 970 certainly helps.  I realize folders are a different hardware breed by and large, but the most popular 40% of video cards can't reliably hit 10m either.
 
Hopefully the 30x0 series comes out later this year on 7nm and I can rejoin everyone then.

My 10 cents (due to inflation):
IMHO, increasing the points tier structure from 2M/4M to 10M/25M is a bit much for keeping the same five/ten dollar EVGA Bucks levels. Even though I've already reached 25M points for this month, I do agree with other commenters that the majority of our fellow folders will have a hard time reaching these point totals.
 
Personally, it wasn't too long ago that I had aging video cards and had to run two desktops for almost a full month to reach point totals, and can empathize with others currently in that position. Luckily, I upgraded to 10XX and 20XX cards that can more effectively produce folding point totals more efficiently with less energy usage.
 
That being said, I support the three-tiered structure that a fellow folder mentioned earlier. Thanks to EVGA for continuing their very generous program; I can't think of another nVidia-based graphics card company that offers a similar program.
 
Finally, I personally think the 20XX graphics card prices are overly inflated. For example, EVGA lists their basic 2060 video card at $349, which is what their top-of-the-line 1060 sold for last year. Hopefully, the new folding point structure will take this into consideration, and entice folders to upgrade their rigs at a fair price.

Yesterday my 1080FE with a heavy overclock did 869,235 points. Today it's trending less so lets say that's about average for the current WU's. Single card system with no other crunching or anything running. That is over 28.7 days to hit 25 million.
That card is 1 generation old and the limits of it need to be pushed to make the proposed 2nd tier. Azuroth would consider that card a solid upgrade to his 970 and would still have to run it 24/7/30 and give up gaming to do it. Electricity usage would also increase 500-600% for folding as well. These are the issues a single card folder has to decide on to move forward. 25 million is way to high. I suggest no more than tripling the tiers to 6/12 or increase the the buck level to help offset the cost of the extra power and beating the crap out of an existing 1 gen old card.