2018/01/30 10:33:16
bigmyke
I'm not running on 2.05 specture bios.  It is too unstable.  Waiting for a new bios.
2018/01/30 15:44:04
Exnetic
I did not like 2.05 either,  My ssd samsungs went half the speed slows things down.
2018/01/30 23:22:57
CaptaPraelium
Slow is annoying....but not critical. Stable is critical. Not using the patches because your stuff got slow is not a good idea. It is a security fix after all.
2018/02/02 22:30:29
GTXJackBauer
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I did have some instability problems with 2.0.5 and it was fixed going back to 2.0.4, x99 classified, 5930k, no OC, also flashed 2.0.5 again after the first time (re-downloaded it too) in case it was a bad flash, but it didn't change anything til I flashed back to 2.04



Was that because of a OC?  Curious because I use a 4.4 Ghz OC and wouldn't want to lose that. 
 
I'm still seeing some issues with others and glad I've held back from doing this update.  Hope another update shows up with more stability across the board but I doubt it.
2018/02/03 06:10:07
CaptaPraelium
Having already rolled back the BIOS for testing and seen some measured degree of improvement in stability, I've also been testing the 390 series of nvidia drivers as many have been complaining of stuttering (beyond that caused by the power monitoring bug which is another thing). I'd mostly been using Battlefield 1 for testing. Well, BF1 got updated which kinda screwed up my test bench (you shouldn't go changing things when you're testing!) but after the update I observed stuttering which would better be described as freezing - if I entered the menus in game, the whole screen would freeze for 1-2 seconds before the menus appeared or disappeared.
As an extension of my testing of the interaction of the new drivers and the spectre fixes, I removed KB4056892 and boom, freezing and stuttering is gone.
It should be noted that others who do have this patch installed, do not experience the stuttering/freezing that I recorded. I am using a 5820K and it appears that the issue may be processor/generation-specific (as in, this is happening to haswell but not kaby lake)

This whole spectre 'fix' is clearly a mess. Let me be clear here, I am NOT advocating that people run their systems without security patches. This was done as part of a testing protocol and SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A SOLUTION. I'm just keeping you in the loop as to the results of my testing. I have escalated this to nvidia and I would expect that they will interact with microsoft to fix the patch. I have also logged a case with microsoft directly. I'll let you know as things pan out.
2018/02/03 07:53:16
GTXJackBauer
CaptaPraelium
Having already rolled back the BIOS for testing and seen some measured degree of improvement in stability, I've also been testing the 390 series of nvidia drivers as many have been complaining of stuttering (beyond that caused by the power monitoring bug which is another thing). I'd mostly been using Battlefield 1 for testing. Well, BF1 got updated which kinda screwed up my test bench (you shouldn't go changing things when you're testing!) but after the update I observed stuttering which would better be described as freezing - if I entered the menus in game, the whole screen would freeze for 1-2 seconds before the menus appeared or disappeared.
As an extension of my testing of the interaction of the new drivers and the spectre fixes, I removed KB4056892 and boom, freezing and stuttering is gone.
It should be noted that others who do have this patch installed, do not experience the stuttering/freezing that I recorded. I am using a 5820K and it appears that the issue may be processor/generation-specific (as in, this is happening to haswell but not kaby lake)

This whole spectre 'fix' is clearly a mess. Let me be clear here, I am NOT advocating that people run their systems without security patches. This was done as part of a testing protocol and SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A SOLUTION. I'm just keeping you in the loop as to the results of my testing. I have escalated this to nvidia and I would expect that they will interact with microsoft to fix the patch. I have also logged a case with microsoft directly. I'll let you know as things pan out.




I also get BF1 lock ups for a few seconds as well.  I don't get that in World of Warcraft or Rocket League.  This all has been happening since last year, way before all these security patches so I think that has to do with Win 10's fall update since that's when I started getting the lock ups around or a GPU driver and or the game itself.  
 
I'm also running on a Haswell-E 5930K.
2018/02/03 17:43:09
faust1200
LazySoftYes and no. If I read this guide Intel has recall this microcode regarding Haswell/Brodwell E. The recommend going back to version 0x22 from 0x23/0x25.
https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/01/microcode-update-guidance.pdf

 
I'm not sure how to decipher this. Does this mean that Intel is recommending against BIOS version 2.05 for Haswell processors at this moment?
2018/02/03 23:35:30
CaptaPraelium
faust1200
LazySoftYes and no. If I read this guide Intel has recall this microcode regarding Haswell/Brodwell E. The recommend going back to version 0x22 from 0x23/0x25.
https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/01/microcode-update-guidance.pdf

 
I'm not sure how to decipher this. Does this mean that Intel is recommending against BIOS version 2.05 for Haswell processors at this moment?


Yes.
Also, maybe no, since they also say to do what your vendor tells you to do.
This is why I asked for an official word from EVGA.
2018/02/03 23:36:40
CaptaPraelium
GTXJackBauerThis all has been happening since last year, way before all these security patches so I think that has to do with Win 10's fall update since that's when I started getting the lock ups around or a GPU driver and or the game itself. 

Yeh, that's definitely not the same thing, sorry :(
2018/02/04 19:49:19
CaptaPraelium
MS are rolling back the spectre fixes now. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4078130/update-to-disable-mitigation-against-spectre-variant-2 I will be performing tests with the updated BIOS and without these patches.

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