2018/01/27 23:25:30
LazySoft
arestavo
SuperConker
Does this Bios update also address the following issue?
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues/
https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/102234-intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues.html


No issues with that on my X99 Classified. My understanding is that the reboot issues doesn't affect the X99, just the lower end Broadwell and Haswell processors on the 270 boards.


Yes and no. If I read this guide Intel has recall this microcode regarding Haswell/Brodwell E. The recommend going back to version 0x22 from 0x23/0x25.
https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/01/microcode-update-guidance.pdf
 
2018/01/28 00:34:39
arestavo
LazySoft
arestavo
SuperConker
Does this Bios update also address the following issue?
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues/
https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/102234-intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues.html


No issues with that on my X99 Classified. My understanding is that the reboot issues doesn't affect the X99, just the lower end Broadwell and Haswell processors on the 270 boards.


Yes and no. If I read this guide Intel has recall this microcode regarding Haswell/Brodwell E. The recommend going back to version 0x22 from 0x23/0x25.
https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/01/microcode-update-guidance.pdf
 



I don't see Broadwell-E listed there. Perhaps that's why my 6950X in the X99 Classified isn't having any issues?
2018/01/28 09:32:59
LazySoft
arestavo
LazySoft
arestavo
SuperConker
Does this Bios update also address the following issue?
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues/
https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/102234-intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues.html


No issues with that on my X99 Classified. My understanding is that the reboot issues doesn't affect the X99, just the lower end Broadwell and Haswell processors on the 270 boards.


Yes and no. If I read this guide Intel has recall this microcode regarding Haswell/Brodwell E. The recommend going back to version 0x22 from 0x23/0x25.
https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/01/microcode-update-guidance.pdf
 



I don't see Broadwell-E listed there. Perhaps that's why my 6950X in the X99 Classified isn't having any issues?


Search for Broadwell E, EP, EP4S, EX or 406F1 in CPUID column at page 3.
2018/01/29 05:20:02
EchofoxtrotFTW
that is one hell of a speed test!!!
 
2018/01/29 13:58:07
SuperConker
LazySoft
arestavo
LazySoft
arestavo
SuperConker
Does this Bios update also address the following issue?
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues/
https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/102234-intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues.html


No issues with that on my X99 Classified. My understanding is that the reboot issues doesn't affect the X99, just the lower end Broadwell and Haswell processors on the 270 boards.


Yes and no. If I read this guide Intel has recall this microcode regarding Haswell/Brodwell E. The recommend going back to version 0x22 from 0x23/0x25.
https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/01/microcode-update-guidance.pdf
 



I don't see Broadwell-E listed there. Perhaps that's why my 6950X in the X99 Classified isn't having any issues?


Search for Broadwell E, EP, EP4S, EX or 406F1 in CPUID column at page 3.
 
 


 
So far no problems with random reboots, or slower reboots for me (just did the Bios update on my Classified).
 
But it looks like this bug might still be in Broadwell-E CPU's (and maybe Haswell-E) so perhaps Evga should make another Bios update for our X99 boards?
Once Intel fixes the bug on their end that is.

EchofoxtrotFTW
that is one hell of a speed test!!!
 



Hehe, yes it is lol.
2018/01/29 17:02:30
GrimDude
EVGA X99 FTW, 32GB 2677, Win 10 64, Mushkin Reactor, various HDDS, GTX 980 SLI. 2.04 BIOS causes video hesitations in Firefox, smooth in Edge, but video games are slugs. Tried using the *.bat installer, and USB flashing also with same result. Had to return to 2.03.
 
(why does the forum program call me a new user? I've been on here for at least 10 years)
 
2018/01/29 19:59:07
HeavyHemi
GrimDude
EVGA X99 FTW, 32GB 2677, Win 10 64, Mushkin Reactor, various HDDS, GTX 980 SLI. 104 BIOS causes video hesitations in Firefox, smooth in Edge, but video games are slugs. Tried using the *.bat installer, and USB flashing also with same result. Had to return to 103.
 
(why does the forum program call me a new user? I've been on here for at least 10 years)
 


It's based on post count....therefore an attempt at manipulating your behavior...
2018/01/30 00:28:26
CaptaPraelium
According to Intel https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/01/microcode-update-guidance.pdf We should not apply this BIOS update as it may introduce instability ... But they say that we should apply updates as recommended by vendors.

If anyone at EVGA could give us some advice here it would be appreciated. I'm sure we all understand that EVGA is doing an excellent job here, in dealing with errors made upstream. (In other words, let's keep showing EVGA some love because this mess is not their fault)

While many others have confirmed it since, it was myself who discovered that power monitoring was causing stuttering in games. However, even with power monitoring disabled, some (much lesser) stuttering is still present. And, while Intel mostly refer to the issues with these processors as being the sporadic reboots and longer reboot times, they have also referred to general instability. Since the minor stuttering (and we are talking in the region of 0.2ms difference in frametimes for over 99.9% of the frames, so many people don't even notice them) are present in older drivers, this suggests that the stuttering may in fact be triggered by the new microcode and/or windows updates.

Accordingly, I will be downgrading the BIOS to the pre-spectre patches and see how I go. I've been performing extensive tests so it will take me some time to return with results.
2018/01/30 01:20:00
CaptaPraelium
Quick update, the frametime spikes (stuttering) with power monitoring is still a thing with the older BIOS/microcode. As for the rest, I'll take a couple of days to confirm.
2018/01/30 02:43:09
z999z3mystorys
I did have some instability problems with 2.0.5 and it was fixed going back to 2.0.4, x99 classified, 5930k, no OC, also flashed 2.0.5 again after the first time (re-downloaded it too) in case it was a bad flash, but it didn't change anything til I flashed back to 2.04

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