2016/05/20 05:13:03
Goobers
Sajin
HeavyHemi
Sajin
The control panel isn't incorrect? lol. The control panel is showing two cards in 2-way sli yet it just says SLI. 


Indeed, because of course, it wouldn't need to say 2-way as that is the only possible SLI config with two GPU's. So, putting 2-way would be as redundant as your arguments. Whereas with 3 or more GPU's, additional configurations are possible. So the control panel is entirely correct and your usage is wrong as established by Nvidia.


Maybe to you it doesn't need to say 2-way, but to me it needs to say 2-way because just saying SLI makes it seem like the word SLI means 2-way.


You completely missed his(her?) point.
 
If you have 3 matching cards, you can have 3-way SLI... or 2-way SLI + whatever for the 3rd card. As that was what was done for the 3 GTX 1080s used in nVidia's Fun House demo PC. Ironically, that goes directly against their SLI FAQ that states you can't do 2-way SLI + 1 if all three are the same card.
 
So, in that case, you have to state you have it in 3-way or in 2-way. And you need to inform people exactly if you're running 2-way +1 or 3-way.
 
But, if you have only 2 cards... saying you have 2-way SLI means the same as just saying SLI, because you only have 2 cards and that's the minimum for SLI. Cause last I checked... you can't SLI one card.
 
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This also translates to 4 cards... where you can run them in 4-way, 3-way + 1 or 2-way + 2 (theoretically anyway).
 
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And if you want to argue f-ing semantics about the "definition" of SLI...
 
"http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/introduction-to-sli-technology-guide#2"
NVIDIA's SLI technology is an exercise in parallelism, which GPUs already do on a massive scale. Commonly, SLI systems are identified as being "n-Way SLI" configurations, and within the context of this guide: "2-Way SLI" applies to any system using two graphics cards in SLI; "3-Way SLI" for any system with three graphics cards in SLI; and "4-Way SLI" denoting any system with four graphics cards or GPUs in SLI (so as to be applicable for two dual-GPU cards in SLI.)

2016/05/20 08:27:17
Sajin
Goobers 
But, if you have only 2 cards... saying you have 2-way SLI means the same as just saying SLI, because you only have 2 cards and that's the minimum for SLI. Cause last I checked... you can't SLI one card.

Exactly.
2016/05/20 09:52:33
the_Scarlet_one
Well, it's already been proven that Nvidia will support up to 4 way sli, so this thread is a moot point, unless Sajin changes it to Say "Nvidia's new High Bandwidth bridge only supports up to SLI." since it has been proven numerous times now that 3 and 4 way will indeed be officially supported.

Oh, and don't worry, VRAM stacking and all that false hope that has been promised is coming as well... If you still believe that. So 4 way will have super high significance when vram stacking is enabled... I mean, it was promised almost a year ago now and we have do many games that support it.. Not to mention the NVLINK thing that was giving us 8way..

People really need to stop following the rumors lol. Up to 2 way or up to SLI is both incorrect, so what does it matter?
2016/05/20 10:12:36
Sajin
Scarlet-Tech
Well, it's already been proven that Nvidia will support up to 4 way sli, so this thread is a moot point, unless Sajin changes it to Say "Nvidia's new High Bandwidth bridge only supports up to SLI." since it has been proven numerous times now that 3 and 4 way will indeed be officially supported.

https://youtu.be/rO7pfttVAn0?t=10m41s
 
"Two is recommended and supported, 3 & 4 are enableable"
 
Just because 3 & 4-way are able to be unlocked doesn't mean they are officially supported. LDA Implicit mode which is controlled by the nvidia driver only supports a max of 2 cards. MDA/LDA Explicit modes which support 3 & 4-way are controlled by the application and not the nvidia driver. 
2016/05/20 10:20:35
the_Scarlet_one
If you select it in the control panel, and it is supported there, it is still supported correct? You don't have to apply a hack or registration change to the control panel correct?

I mean, the driver controls the control panel, so whether implicit or explicit, if only up to 2 way is officially supported, Nvidia is still providing the ability to enable 3 and 4. If they aren't going to actually support it, then they shouldn't enable it in my opinion. I do find it funny that Nvidia reps, on Nvidia forums, refer to it as 2 way sli.

I won't lie, I don't even enable sli all that often. I just use the bridge to provide rigidity and stability to the cards lol.
2016/05/20 10:38:30
Sajin
Scarlet-Tech
If you select it in the control panel, and it is supported there, it is still supported correct? You don't have to apply a hack or registration change to the control panel correct? 

I mean, the driver controls the control panel, so whether implicit or explicit, if only up to 2 way is officially supported, Nvidia is still providing the ability to enable 3 and 4. If they aren't going to actually support it, then they shouldn't enable it in my opinion. I do find it funny that Nvidia reps, on Nvidia forums, refer to it as 2 way sli. 

I won't lie, I don't even enable sli all that often. I just use the bridge to provide rigidity and stability to the cards lol.

You have to use the nvidia enthusiast key (which writes a piece of code to the cards vbios) to even be able to select 3/4-way inside the nvidia control panel. You may be getting support to enabled it inside the nvidia control panel, but the support stops there, the key doesn't make 3/4-way work in LDA Implicit mode.
2016/05/20 11:05:56
HeavyHemi
Sajin
Scarlet-Tech
If you select it in the control panel, and it is supported there, it is still supported correct? You don't have to apply a hack or registration change to the control panel correct? 

I mean, the driver controls the control panel, so whether implicit or explicit, if only up to 2 way is officially supported, Nvidia is still providing the ability to enable 3 and 4. If they aren't going to actually support it, then they shouldn't enable it in my opinion. I do find it funny that Nvidia reps, on Nvidia forums, refer to it as 2 way sli. 

I won't lie, I don't even enable sli all that often. I just use the bridge to provide rigidity and stability to the cards lol.

You have to use the nvidia enthusiast key (which writes a piece of code to the cards vbios) to even be able to select 3/4-way inside the nvidia control panel. You may be getting support to enabled it inside the nvidia control panel, but the support stops there, the key doesn't make 3/4-way work in LDA Implicit mode.




Nope. LDA implicit mode *officially* supports 2-way. The key unlocks the ability to use 3 or 4 way in LDA implicit mode. So we're back the the original: Nvidia officially supports 2-way, but 3 and 4 way can be enabled but will not be officially supported.
2016/05/20 11:11:01
Sajin
HeavyHemi
Sajin
Scarlet-Tech
If you select it in the control panel, and it is supported there, it is still supported correct? You don't have to apply a hack or registration change to the control panel correct? 

I mean, the driver controls the control panel, so whether implicit or explicit, if only up to 2 way is officially supported, Nvidia is still providing the ability to enable 3 and 4. If they aren't going to actually support it, then they shouldn't enable it in my opinion. I do find it funny that Nvidia reps, on Nvidia forums, refer to it as 2 way sli. 

I won't lie, I don't even enable sli all that often. I just use the bridge to provide rigidity and stability to the cards lol.

You have to use the nvidia enthusiast key (which writes a piece of code to the cards vbios) to even be able to select 3/4-way inside the nvidia control panel. You may be getting support to enabled it inside the nvidia control panel, but the support stops there, the key doesn't make 3/4-way work in LDA Implicit mode.




Nope. LDA implicit mode *officially* supports 2-way. The key unlocks the ability to use 3 or 4 way in LDA implicit mode. So we're back the the original: Nvidia officially supports 2-way, but 3 and 4 way can be enabled but will not be officially supported.


Want to show me exactly where nvidia states the key unlocks the ability to use 3/4-way in LDA Implicit mode?
2016/05/20 11:18:11
HeavyHemi
Sajin
HeavyHemi
Sajin
Scarlet-Tech
If you select it in the control panel, and it is supported there, it is still supported correct? You don't have to apply a hack or registration change to the control panel correct? 

I mean, the driver controls the control panel, so whether implicit or explicit, if only up to 2 way is officially supported, Nvidia is still providing the ability to enable 3 and 4. If they aren't going to actually support it, then they shouldn't enable it in my opinion. I do find it funny that Nvidia reps, on Nvidia forums, refer to it as 2 way sli. 

I won't lie, I don't even enable sli all that often. I just use the bridge to provide rigidity and stability to the cards lol.

You have to use the nvidia enthusiast key (which writes a piece of code to the cards vbios) to even be able to select 3/4-way inside the nvidia control panel. You may be getting support to enabled it inside the nvidia control panel, but the support stops there, the key doesn't make 3/4-way work in LDA Implicit mode.




Nope. LDA implicit mode *officially* supports 2-way. The key unlocks the ability to use 3 or 4 way in LDA implicit mode. So we're back the the original: Nvidia officially supports 2-way, but 3 and 4 way can be enabled but will not be officially supported.


Want to show me exactly where nvidia states the key unlocks the ability to use 3/4-way in LDA Implicit mode?



Watch the video posted. It starts around the 7:30 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO7pfttVAn0
2016/05/20 11:30:06
Sajin
HeavyHemi
Sajin
HeavyHemi
Sajin
Scarlet-Tech
If you select it in the control panel, and it is supported there, it is still supported correct? You don't have to apply a hack or registration change to the control panel correct? 

I mean, the driver controls the control panel, so whether implicit or explicit, if only up to 2 way is officially supported, Nvidia is still providing the ability to enable 3 and 4. If they aren't going to actually support it, then they shouldn't enable it in my opinion. I do find it funny that Nvidia reps, on Nvidia forums, refer to it as 2 way sli. 

I won't lie, I don't even enable sli all that often. I just use the bridge to provide rigidity and stability to the cards lol.

You have to use the nvidia enthusiast key (which writes a piece of code to the cards vbios) to even be able to select 3/4-way inside the nvidia control panel. You may be getting support to enabled it inside the nvidia control panel, but the support stops there, the key doesn't make 3/4-way work in LDA Implicit mode.




Nope. LDA implicit mode *officially* supports 2-way. The key unlocks the ability to use 3 or 4 way in LDA implicit mode. So we're back the the original: Nvidia officially supports 2-way, but 3 and 4 way can be enabled but will not be officially supported.


Want to show me exactly where nvidia states the key unlocks the ability to use 3/4-way in LDA Implicit mode?



Watch the video posted. It starts around the 7:30 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO7pfttVAn0


All that was stated was that you can still config your machine to do 3/4-way. That doesn't tell me if 3/4-way is *officially* supported in LDA Implicit mode.

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