is it reasonable to now take power % as the effective utilisation? since utilisation now cannot hit 100% without been at very low clocks.
 
inquisition with msaa 4x (mfaa enabled) is pushing my card but without FPS slowdown :) I am in some areas in high 90s on power load :) (with 110 set as cap).

chrcoluk
is it reasonable to now take power % as the effective utilisation? since utilisation now cannot hit 100% without been at very low clocks.
 
inquisition with msaa 4x (mfaa enabled) is pushing my card but without FPS slowdown :) I am in some areas in high 90s on power load :) (with 110 set as cap).

it is on the original series of evga cards as the power limit is usually the only true limit on the card.  if you move to a ssc+ then no it is not.  I am running +40v on the core and I still do not get 100% power utilization, and I have the cap set at 115%power. 
 
my original sc was a great card but some games just drew to much power and would crash the card and with the ssc+ i only crash when my clocks are to high, this is the way it is supposed to be.

fkrIII

chrcoluk
is it reasonable to now take power % as the effective utilisation? since utilisation now cannot hit 100% without been at very low clocks.
 
inquisition with msaa 4x (mfaa enabled) is pushing my card but without FPS slowdown :) I am in some areas in high 90s on power load :) (with 110 set as cap).

it is on the original series of evga cards as the power limit is usually the only true limit on the card.  if you move to a ssc+ then no it is not.  I am running +40v on the core and I still do not get 100% power utilization, and I have the cap set at 115%power. 
 
my original sc was a great card but some games just drew to much power and would crash the card and with the ssc+ i only crash when my clocks are to high, this is the way it is supposed to be.

I have two SSC cards in SLI and these perform very well with excellent power regulation

chrcoluk
is it reasonable to now take power % as the effective utilisation? since utilisation now cannot hit 100% without been at very low clocks.
 
inquisition with msaa 4x (mfaa enabled) is pushing my card but without FPS slowdown :) I am in some areas in high 90s on power load :) (with 110 set as cap).

Furry E v2 (OC Scanner X) for instance separates the wheat from the chaff. On this benchmark the new SSC+ and FTW+ will gladly take all the power you are willing to feed them 
My SSC+ is constantly drawing 115% on this benchmark and it puts out a lot of heat (even without additional voltage). You might want to give it a shot and see how far you can push it.

My FTW+ has an ASIC of 60.4% and while that is low I bumped it up 100 MHz right away and no issues. 115 MHz was still stable in Heaven but 130 MHz crashed it so I'll have to buff the voltage. TDP barely scraped 80% without being increased and my old FTW only hit 1450 MHz with an overclock and it had a 72.8% ASIC. Seems LeviFig got a bad card in general because mine is already topping my old FTW. I will do more testing and overclocking because I do believe it will hit 1500 MHz no problem. I'd also like to add that it has very minuscule coil whine, barely hearable. A big plus there too. My old 660 had it a bit and my FTW had it quite a bit as well but this one is silent.

As long as it hits 1500 MHz, I'd say it was worth it. Backplate, little to no coil whine, clocking higher, MMCP cooler as well. All I lost was ASIC quality, so far so good though!
 
Edit: Also, my GPU isn't even hitting it's advertised speeds. So if I really wanted to I could RMA this GPU. I'm going to wait and see.

rjohnson11

fkrIII

chrcoluk
is it reasonable to now take power % as the effective utilisation? since utilisation now cannot hit 100% without been at very low clocks.
 
inquisition with msaa 4x (mfaa enabled) is pushing my card but without FPS slowdown :) I am in some areas in high 90s on power load :) (with 110 set as cap).

it is on the original series of evga cards as the power limit is usually the only true limit on the card.  if you move to a ssc+ then no it is not.  I am running +40v on the core and I still do not get 100% power utilization, and I have the cap set at 115%power. 
 
my original sc was a great card but some games just drew to much power and would crash the card and with the ssc+ i only crash when my clocks are to high, this is the way it is supposed to be.

I have two SSC cards in SLI and these perform very well with excellent power regulation

are they overclocked at all and do you hit boost clocks of over 1450.  with the correct power delivery all of these cards are capable of 1450MHz.  The old cards are still powerful cards but the 4+2 power phase and the gimped power and voltage limit really hurts the early cards,  not to mention  if you have the original acx cooler. 

by the way got the cardboard box delivered today I had ordered to ship it, unreal the thing comes flatpacked.
 
So the now 50 euro'ish cost no decent GPU for probably 2 weeks. (just when I got into DA:I again).  I need to think.

chrcoluk
by the way got the cardboard box delivered today I had ordered to ship it, unreal the thing comes flatpacked.
 
So the now 50 euro'ish cost no decent GPU for probably 2 weeks. (just when I got into DA:I again).  I need to think.

 
I felt the same way before I sent mine in.   It always sucks to spend so much money on what is really just a toy but then to not get to play with it sucks.  much happier with the ssc+ now. 
 

hey all so I chatted with amazon today and I got a 20% refund.  I get to keep my card and I am now actually happy about the purchase.  I love amazon.  I got $75 back.
 
my chat started with:
there is a recently found error in advertising of the gtx970. I have read that you are following in neweggs practice of refunding 20% of the purchase price since this GPU is not as advertised
 
I am a prime member and I do spend allot on amazon so that may have helped but in the end I told them I could not send the card back because I need the card for professional work.  amazon then said okay and the refund happened
 
I did not speak to a supervisor and the whole process has taken maybe 20 minutes

Wow, makes me wish I had purchased my cards through Newegg or Amazon now instead of eVGA's store (don't see them giving 20% back).  That would have been $150 back for me.