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2014/12/15 17:59:38
nateman_doo
You know, someone made a waterblock for the Voodoo 5 6000 back in 2012.  It is the only one of its kind ever made that I know of.  back in 2012.  
http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/1455276
 
 
2017/02/16 03:48:27
Gold Leader
kithylin
I hope the mods will forgive me for replying to a thread that's about half a year old by now.. I know 'necro'ing' threads is sort of frowned on, but this one is just.. unique and sort of special.
 
I too sat down last night and read almost this entire post in entirety and even watched the discussion video. Thank you for posting this, for years I had always wanted to know about the history of 3DFX and the later voodoo boards. Back when I was younger.. I don't remember the exact era, right about when the voodoo2 was sold new, Creative Labs had a local gaming event at my local mall here in Dallas, Texas. They had about 100 PC's set up in the center of the mall running QUAKE and it was all networked and most of them could join the game together and they all ran Voodoo's. Up until then I had only seen the graphics from like Playstation 1, and DOS Software/pixel modes and didn't even know any of that was possible.
 
I went and spent all day (as long as they would let me) playing games there.. and then I went and got a summer job and saved up all my money just to buy a voodoo2 and a AMD K6-II/500 machine to play QUAKE on. And from there it's snowballed in to always having a job to support my addiction to have a powerful PC gaming computer.
 
I later had a Voodoo3, back when they were sold new, but by then I went with nvidia near the end and never got to experience the Voodoo4, or the Voodoo5.. or even know anything about the later models and what came to be.. or why 3DFX failed. So thanks for sharing all of this. I did want to ask, you mentioned some of the Anti-Aliasing modes looking good on the later voodoo series. Do some of the older games really look unique when run on voodoo hardware, compared to like, later model faster ATI/NVIDIA AGP cards? (I mean like the X1900 XTX, and the Geforce 4 TI 4600 series cards, etc.) And I'm not sure if I read all of your posts right.. will the dual-chip Voodoo5 AGP cards actually run full-screen super-sampled AA modes at playable frame rates? Or is that something only the 4-chipped 6000 series cards could handle?
 
If so, I may have to try and acquire a used voodoo5 AGP card and set up an older machine some day just to see what the games look like.


Even it's 2 years since you made that post, I too now post two years later and thank you for posting this, I have not ever looked back since.
Good news? well I managed to have rebuilt my 3dfx test system so hopefully I can get some new results for this topic;
even I don't own the Vodooo5 6000 & 5000's anymore, my 5500 AGP still gets the job done just fine
 
AS the FSAA quality 3dfx used on the Voodoo4 & Voodoo5 boards, they took use of the Rotated Grid Super Sampled FSAA Method,
as where NVIDIA used  Ordered Grid Super Sampled FSAA, which was far less of quality to the method 3dfx Pioneered since 3dfx helped Quantum3D make the Obsidian2 200SBi's to make their tripe card 6 way SLI Iron & Quad Card  8 way SLI Mercury systems these could both do Motion Blur and Rotated Grid FSAA x2 & x4 and this was 1998.
 
Quantum3D Iron & Mercury systems used the 3Dfx SST-2 chipset which is identical to that of the 3Dfx Voodoo2 for their multi GPU setups.
So yes Voodoo2 could do Motion Blur & Rotated Grid Full Scene Hardware Anti -Aliasing, they just needed the masses to work together to get the job done.
3dfx Voodoo5 like 3dfx Voodoo4 could do this all on their own, so yes it came from somewhere and 3dfx Rampage 2000 is the successor of the 3dfx Voodoo5.
 
But yes I still have my 3dfx systems here they are :)
 
Here my 3Dfx Vodooo2 SLI system:
 
Avenger M99
Intel Pentium !!!/E 650Mhz S.E.C.C. II Slot 1
EPoX EP-BX3 Ver 1.1 Intel BX 440 Chipset
3x 128MB PC-100 Samsung Original
ATi Rage 128 Ultra AGP 32MB 64it SDR
Quantum3D Obsidian2 X24 PCI 24MB 384 Bit EDO Rev.D 9822 [Inpractical 6x 4MB 64Bit]
Intel Pro 100 S Desktop Adapter
Packard Bell / Philips FM/AM Radio Card 8 Bit ISA
Creative Labs CT4390 AWE64 Gold 16Bit ISA 8MB
Sony 3.5" Floppy Drive
LG DVD RAM/CD RW Drive 16x/8x/40x/24x
1x Maxtor Diamond Max 9+ 40GB HDD 7200 rpm
1x Maxtor Diamond Max 9+ 25GB HDD 7200 rpm
A-Open 350 Watt PSU
FKI FK-6043 ATX Case
Compaq S710 17" CRT, I use 1024 x 768 x32 @ 85 Hertz,
Images show my older iiyama Vision Master Pro 452, 19" CRT, this one died, so back to the old Compaq S710 

Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional UK + Service Pack 4 & Roll Up 1 For Service Pack 4
Quantum3D Obsidian2 X-24 drivers for win2K by x-3dfx's "Archangel" aka Anthony
DirectX 9.0c
 
I Don't have that monitor anymore, went for a Smaller 17" CompaQ S710, just easier to use.

 
Rage 128 Ultra , X25, Pro 100 S, Radio Card, AWE64 Gold:

 
Rage 128 Ultra , X25, Pro 100 S, Radio Card, AWE64 Gold alternative view

 
Quantum3D's 2D to 3D External Pass Through Cable, which goes from the Main VGA the 2D Card, that being the ATi Rage 128 Ultra AGP 32MB to the 3D add on card the Quantum3D Obsidian2 X24 and from there to the Monitor 

 
 
Here my 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP systems:
 
 
Gradinko SMP 2000
2x Intel Pentium!!!/EB 1Ghz Coppermine, 2x 256KB L2
ABiT VP6 Raid Ver 1.0
4x 512MB PC-133 ECC Reg CL2.5 HP / Micron Crucial
Matrox Parhelia AGP 256MB 256Bit DDR Rev.A 0105 @ AGP x4
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI 64MB 256Bit SDR Rev.A1 2900 [in practical 2x 32MB 128Bit SDR]
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 Platinum eX
Intel Pro/1000 MT Fast Ethernet Adapter
ASUS NEC 5 ported USB 2.0 PCI 32 bit card
1x Seagate Barracuda V 10+ 80 GB 7200 rpm Ultra ATA 133 HDD @ Ultra ATA 100
1x NEC DVD-RW ND 1300A Ultra ATA 100
Addtronics 7896A Server Tower
Antec True Power 550P EPS 12V + 2.3V 550Wat PSU + External Molex
Samsung SyncMaster 943
Compaq S710 17" CRT

Windows XP Professional USA + Service Pack 3
Matrox Parhelia Power Desk Drivers August 05, 2007
SFFT Alpha 41 Modified by ps47 for 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI





 
Sveta 2002
AMD AthlonXP 2700+ Thoroughbred-B
2167Mhz ,333Mhz FSB, 256KB L2
EPoX EP-8K3A+ with the VIA Apollo KT-333 Chipset
1x 1GB Corsair PC3200 XMS Platinum @ PC-2700
1x 1GB Kingston PC 3200 Hyper-X @ PC-2700
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP 64MB Rev.A 2500
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum + Live Drive
1x Seagate Baracuda V 120GB 7200 rpm HDD
1x NEC 3.5" Floppy Disk Drive
NEC 16x/40x DVD/CD ReWriter.
HIPRO 300 Watt PSU
Compaq S710 17" CRT Max Reso: 1280x 1024 x 32 @ 60 Hetz / Used Reso: 1024 x 768 x32 @ 85 Hertz.
 
Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional UK + Service Pack 4 & Roll Up 1 For Service Pack 4
SFFT Alpha 41 Modified by ps47, need this driver so the V5 works in DXX-Rebirth
 



 

 
Sveta 2002 will be taken apart and it's parts will be built in my Addtronics 6896-A Entry Level Server Tower;
So if I ever do re-obtain a 3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB Rev.A 3700 Engineering Sample, I have the space to fit one

And there you have it
2017/02/16 04:20:01
rjohnson11
Always love those old style mods you post. Some Nostalgia just never dies. 
2017/02/16 06:21:04
Salem13
Man, I wish I could find some pictures.

I had a sweet 5500 with AMD K-6 coolers mounted on it.
2017/02/16 09:53:41
Gold Leader
Many thanks guys
 
But I prefer to keep all my hardware in their original state and keep them clean;
these things have proved me plenty times that such treatment lengthens the lifespan to it's utmost
 
Also today I replaced the V5 5500 PCI with a PC Flashed V5 5500 PCI Macintosh :)

As you see I still gotta clean up my cable management in there, but first I gotta make sure it's working fine, so far it works great :D
This system was built on January 28, 2000, so that is well over 17 years and 1 month old and it still works 
 
Here the updated specs of this system:
 
Gradinko SMP 2000
 
2x Intel Pentium!!!/EB 1Ghz Coppermine, 2x 256KB L2
ABiT VP6 Raid Ver 1.0
4x 512MB PC-133 ECC Reg CL2.5 HP / Micron Crucial
Matrox Parhelia AGP 256MB 256Bit DDR Rev.A 0105 @ AGP x4
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI Macintosh 64MB 256Bit SDR Rev.A1 2900 [in practical 2x 32MB 128Bit SDR] + PC Bios 1.18_LCD
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 Platinum eX
Intel Pro/1000 MT Fast Ethernet Adapter
ASUS NEC 5 ported USB 2.0 PCI 32 bit card
1x Seagate Barracuda V 10+ 80 GB 7200 rpm Ultra ATA 133 HDD @ Ultra ATA 100
1x NEC DVD-RW ND 1300A Ultra ATA 100
Addtronics 7896A Server Tower
Antec True Power 550P EPS 12V + 2.3V 550Wat PSU + External Molex
Compaq S710 17" CRT Max Reso: 1280 x 1024 x32 @ 60 Hertz / Used Reso: 1024 x 768 x32 @ 85 Hertz.
2x 25 Watt Sony  Stereo Speakers from 1994! + Bass Boost!
 
Windows XP Professional USA + Service Pack 3
Matrox Parhelia Power Desk Drivers August 05, 2007
SFFT Alpha 41 Modified by ps47 for PC Flashed 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI Macintosh

Here the complete system setup on my camping table, which I used as test system work desk :)

But there you go, my first 2CPU system that was built on January 28, Year 2000 still works :D
 
My other 3dfx PC Sveta 2002 , the AthlonXP 2700+ with the V5 5500 AGP will go under a makeover tomorrow.
As I plan to rebuild my old 3dfx Voodoo5 6000 test system back to how it once was.
Only with a Voodoo5 5500 AGP as I don't have my Voodoo5 6000 no more.
 
Such things keep me busy, and it's good for practice as well
2017/02/16 13:23:17
Athena
Had nothing but sweet love for mei voodoo cards over the years.
I think I still have 2 original Voodoo cards sitting in storage.  ^_^
2017/02/16 17:09:15
Gold Leader
Athena
Had nothing but sweet love for mei voodoo cards over the years.
I think I still have 2 original Voodoo cards sitting in storage.  ^_^


Well if you need help getting drivers for those, here some helpful pages to get the latest and most stable 3dfx Voodo2 drivers:
 
Falconfly's Voodoo2 Driver & Utilities Archive:
http://www.falconfly.de/voodoo2.htm
 
3dfxzone.it's Voodoo2 Drivers & Utilities Archive:
http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/3dfx/voodoo2/index.php
 
The drivers for all your Voodoo2 needs are all there.
 
2017/02/16 19:04:45
nateman_doo
Still... there can be only ONE waterblock ;)
 
2017/02/16 20:10:15
Gold Leader
nateman_doo
Still... there can be only ONE waterblock ;)
 


The waterblock is useless and is mostly frowned upon by most real 3dfx collectors from x-3dfx Community, 3dfxzone.it & Vooodooalert.de the community I am part of myself.
Overclocking Voodoo 5 6000's it's utterly useless, the performance gain is less than 3% from 167Mhz to 200Mhz, the user of these waterblock projects even destroyed 4 to 5 of his cards by using plastix 70 on the cards, even he owns more than 16 cards already, gifts he gotten he sells for 3500+ Euro's/USD to others, so much disrespect he has caused and lots of pain as well, he and his useless projects are always frowned upon
 
So please by all means leave out these useless waterblock related projects, we seen enough of them as it is within the 3dfx communities already, it did no one any good.
At x-3dfx, Voodooalert, Falconfly & 3dfxzone.it we are here to preserve the cards for what they are and not ruin them with useless projects.
 
A lovely read to prove that we frown these useless projects
http://www.falconfly.de/c....pl?num=1321196982/0#0
 
2017/02/16 21:58:41
nateman_doo
damn man?   take it easy.  
 
Didn't realize my waterblock "offended" the voodoo relic collectors.  He wanted something special, and we designed it together.  I still think fondly of the project.
 
I was honored to work on the museum piece.  After all, it was his card.  I will leave it at that.

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