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2013/04/24 21:58:12
bowlinra
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2013/04/25 06:01:50
johnerz
bowlinra

mcyhanick
anyone have any suggestions for mounting the 4p motherboard in a rackmount setup with these large coolers on them?
... Another thought, do these really get that hot if I don't overclock them? I plan on using 4x 6166HE's running stock. Can't I just use a 1U case and mount it all in that and attach to the rack? (http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/818/SC818TQ-1400LP.cfm) <- says its made for the H8QGi+-F 
You have a ton of options, the questions is do you care how it looks? and how much are you willing to spend for it?
Slide out rails ain't as cheap as one would think, and they have to be match with your case. Certainly you could find a steal at there, but it not unheard of to cost $100 for just the rails.

As for 1U servers my below background still applies.
Background: Server boards are design more or less for Data Centers, where cool air is rapidly circular thought the case, with the smallest height and foot print as possible. Rack mounted Data Center devices are generally avoided in the home environment for several reasons. Most folks don't have a server rack at home, they can take up alot of space, but the main reason I believe is the noise levels of the fans. These Data Center devices fans are design to pull high volumes of cool air thru the device and are very loud and typically not user adjustable. How Loud? Take your vacuum cleaner in the closet and turn it on and close the door. If you and significant others are OK with the sound volume, ignore this warning.


mcyhanick Another thought, do these really get that hot if I don't overclock them? I plan on using 4x 6166HE's running stock.
 
I've always ran my AMD 4P with CM Hyper+ 212 at stock speed were pretty cool, I'm think 32Cish? Even overclocked usually under 40C.

My recommendation is go cheap, and use the money for more hardware.
I'd get the following:
1/2 in. x 2 ft. x 4 ft. Medium Density Fiberboard (MDF) Handy Panel ($8.87 per)
1 - Crown Bolt 1-1/2 in. x 72 in. Steel Plain Slotted Angle ($16.48 per

Cut the Steel Slotted Angle for rails and directly bolt to your rack, then cut down the MDF board to use as a platform for the motherboard. 

It's basically the same thing I have, except my rack is several inches wide than an standard 19in rack.
Bowlinra's Home Rack Garage Build - Beating the Folding Heat of Summer 


 
Or just use stand offs from the MDF (or plywood in mine as it was in the workshop) 
 
I just love the photos of the 2/4P systems  
 
 

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2013/04/25 08:19:32
JaskarnSidhu
If height and space is an issue, you can always go with water cooling and keep your 1U profile.
2013/04/25 14:03:22
johnerz
Sure can, but compared to air it a lot more $ and that's my issue, also the 4p are quite cool running when not overclocked, and that makes the H2O  more of a pain than it needs to be (my main rig is H2O cooled)
2013/04/25 19:44:38
TheWolf
If someone was thinking of going water these might could be used with some mod work at 15$ each.
2013/04/28 12:57:21
bowlinra
Water cooling is complete overkill in IMHO, even with overclocking. I'm running my overclocked in the garage without air conditioning during the summer.
2013/04/28 16:21:32
TheWolf
bowlinra

References

Then you want to read these: 
Musky's multiple processor g34 checklist 
Tear's Overclock BIOS 
Musky's Ubuntu guide
Musky's 212 mounting guide
Jmtyra's ** Team 32: 4P Folding Mega Thread ** 


I've read pretty much all those and am at the point of looking at flashing the bios soon.
I could use a little help "anyone welcome to answer" first off I'm no noob to flashing bios.
The H guide tho is a little confusing about which bios is for what board since I 'm not very
familiar with every type or there names. The H8QGi/6 the /6 of this is a little confusing
but I think is the correct bios for the board I have. Next if that's the correct bios??
is using the flash.bat the best way for this flash and are all the correct flags already within that? 

 
Edit: think I found the answer to one of my questions, but like a answer just the same.
May help other new comers to the 4P clan.
Plus I'm trying to not ask to many questions at once since some question seem to get over looked and never answered.
2013/04/28 20:47:46
bowlinra
TheWolf 
The H guide tho is a little confusing about which bios is for what board since I 'm not very 
familiar with every type or there names. The H8QGi/6 the /6 of this is a little confusing
but I think is the correct bios for the board I have. Next if that's the correct bios??
is using the flash.bat the best way for this flash and are all the correct flags already within that? 
 
 
SuperMicro basically make two boards the SM H8QGL with different CPU socket layout and the SM H8QGi that you have. There a version of the H8QGi board with SAS controllers added called H8QG6. So both (H8QGi & H8QG6) boards use the same version of the BIOS (G60NG4.A11). BUT the H8QGL has a different BIOS (GL1NG4.511).
 
I've only flashed 2 boards (both H8QGi) and I recall downloading the stock BIOS update utility from SuperMicro's website and used the [H] BIOS. Personally I'd run the board stock for a week or so, before adding the [H] BIOS to the mix as well as minimizing anything that might popup requiring a RMA.


Musky's post on the basic information -> Additional information on the different board series
2013/04/28 20:58:31
TheWolf
So if I read it right I need to disable BMC on this board via the onboard jumper before flashing?
 
JPB1 BMC Enable/Disable Pins 1-2 (Enabled)

 
2013/04/28 22:34:15
bowlinra
TheWolf
So if I read it right I need to disable BMC on this board via the onboard jumper before flashing?
JPB1 BMC Enable/Disable Pins 1-2 (Enabled)

I don't think it matters. I did disable BMC but can't recall if it was before or after the flash.
 
I found my thread setting up up my first AMD 4P rig.. I was nervous too.. You may find it helpful.
AMD 4P Burning and Prep for OC?
 

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