2022/07/16 20:44:04
UndesiredSanity
mylittlepwny2
Nice score. Ur card seems real strong! What's ur stock clock at normal ambient temps if you hit the boost lock button on PX1? 2085? 2100?



Just off from a reboot, right after windows loaded, opened up PX1 with defaults loaded...Hitting BOOST LOCK brings my core up to 2115Mhz. 
2022/07/16 23:15:17
Gonfonix
UndesiredSanity
kraade
UndesiredSanity
Gonfonix
Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?




15,500-16,2000 I imagine.


Looks like they are right in line with the Ultra cards about 14.7k stock and 15.7k clocked , looks like win 11 takes about 220 points off so your mileage may very


Gonfonix
UndesiredSanity
Gonfonix
Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?




High 14,800-15000 I imagine.


My highest at stock is 14,569...



I had to correct my original post. I didn't have a FTW 3090ti, just my KPE one and regular 3090. My KPE did 15022 no OC with fans at 100% 72F room. 
 
I would install the latest drivers with a clean and update bios with the latest PX1 software. Give that a try. 


Tried that, now with a fresh install of Windows 10. Same result…
2022/07/17 00:24:35
mylittlepwny2
UndesiredSanity
mylittlepwny2
Nice score. Ur card seems real strong! What's ur stock clock at normal ambient temps if you hit the boost lock button on PX1? 2085? 2100?



Just off from a reboot, right after windows loaded, opened up PX1 with defaults loaded...Hitting BOOST LOCK brings my core up to 2115Mhz. 


very solid. Your core is of similiar quality to mine then. Boost lock stock speed is a good (albeit not complete) indicator of GPU quality. What was ur idle gpu temp while boost lock was active?

So when u run a +150 offset is that taking you up to 2265 MHz?
2022/07/17 08:29:56
kingpinamar
Does anyone know the specs on the fans that come with the aio? More specifically the cfm?
2022/07/17 09:00:06
tresnugget
kingpinamar
Does anyone know the specs on the fans that come with the aio? More specifically the cfm?

I searched the model number and found specs all over the place. pla12025s12hh-lv is the model if you want to look into it. The closest thing I could find was that it's 81 cfm at 2000 rpm but these fans are 2200 rpm so no idea.
2022/07/17 10:26:27
kraade
mylittlepwny2
UndesiredSanity
mylittlepwny2
Nice score. Ur card seems real strong! What's ur stock clock at normal ambient temps if you hit the boost lock button on PX1? 2085? 2100?



Just off from a reboot, right after windows loaded, opened up PX1 with defaults loaded...Hitting BOOST LOCK brings my core up to 2115Mhz. 


very solid. Your core is of similiar quality to mine then. Boost lock stock speed is a good (albeit not complete) indicator of GPU quality. What was ur idle gpu temp while boost lock was active?

So when u run a +150 offset is that taking you up to 2265 MHz?



so would 2070 be a dud?
2022/07/17 10:36:47
talon951
kraade
 
so would 2070 be a dud?




All boost lock does is lock the core to the max VF curve voltage.  This will vary depending on whether you have the voltage set to 100% and the shape of the VF curve at the time (sometimes by default it will flatten out before 1100mv depending on the state of the card).
 
It has exactly nothing to do with the quality of your card.  Only how far you can push clocks will determine that.
 
 
2022/07/17 10:44:52
mylittlepwny2
talon951
kraade
 
so would 2070 be a dud?




All boost lock does is lock the core to the max VF curve voltage.  This will vary depending on whether you have the voltage set to 100% and the shape of the VF curve at the time (sometimes by default it will flatten out before 1100mv depending on the state of the card).
 
It has exactly nothing to do with the quality of your card.  Only how far you can push clocks will determine that.
 
 


It's not perfect and there are definitely exceptions but it's proven to be a fairly reliable indicator of overall GPU quality when used by 2 different cards with the SAME bios and similiar temperatures. But to get a better picture, it is important to see how much of an offset your GPU can run on top of the boost clock. If a 2070 MHz gpu runs a +165 offset then it's effectively running the same as a 2115 GPU running a +120 offset.
2022/07/17 11:23:27
UndesiredSanity
tresnugget

I searched the model number and found specs all over the place. pla12025s12hh-lv is the model if you want to look into it. The closest thing I could find was that it's 81 cfm at 2000 rpm but these fans are 2200 rpm so no idea.



That doesn't seem right. My Noctua NF-A12x25  are only rate for 61 CFM, but have great static pressure performance. My CPU cooler is an EVGA CLC 360 which I replaced the EVGA fans for the NF-A12x25 and they perform much better and not as noisy. The KPE radiator is right next the CPU one and both at full speed, the air flow throw the radiators are much better on the Noctua vs the KPE one. I wonder if the Fan driver on the GPU is not driving these fans to their full potential compared to being driven by the motherboard or stand alone controller. I just received 3 more NF-A12x25 fans. I will do a comparison against the new KPE Hybrid fans. 
2022/07/17 11:49:14
talon951
mylittlepwny2

It's not perfect and there are definitely exceptions but it's proven to be a fairly reliable indicator of overall GPU quality when used by 2 different cards with the SAME bios and similiar temperatures. But to get a better picture, it is important to see how much of an offset your GPU can run on top of the boost clock. If a 2070 MHz gpu runs a +165 offset then it's effectively running the same as a 2115 GPU running a +120 offset.



It's no different than selecting the 1100 mv point in Afterburner and hitting "L".  Just locks the voltage and you get a frequency that's only dependent on the VF curve and the current state/temp of the card.  

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