2021/10/14 20:00:43
rjbarker
mikey63366
I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 




Not sure what you mean by "looks like one of the pads came off" ? Are you talking about the thermal pads ? .......Did you install the block on the PCB yourself (assuming you did)....pads on backplate or on PCB, if you install the pads correctly, fit the PCB over the block and tighten down they cannot "come off".....
Taking apart and re-applying thermal pads is a breeze
 
Your temps are certainly quite high but not sure how many radiators your using to cool the GPU....you should be able to ensure all thermal pads are correctly installed (correct thickness following the instructions) and re-assemble.
If you tightened the screws on the pcb to block really snug, inspect the little plastic washers prior to re-using, as if they appear deformed / squashed from the initial install, you shouldnt try to re-use them, as you wont get the perfect "tightened seat".......I went thru this when I moved my block from the 3080 to the 3080Ti....use new plastic washers, EK provides enough in the package for a few installs..
 
1. I always use new thermal pads an plastic washers if I have to disassemble and re-install.
2. I tighten down the screws on the pcb "very snug", to the point you begin to squish down the plastic washers slightly.
3. I have seen some folks and EK say not to tighten too much, but if you dont tighten enough you wont get a good "seat"...
 
As for your RGB not working, assuming its the RGB at the end of the Waterblock where the "Vector FTW3" lights up, a couple of things to check:
- First any lighting software, play around with it, if that doesnt do the trick....
- Take the Block apart and check that the little RGB wire connector that lays between the block and PCB didnt come disconnected during the install. (I had this same thing happen).
- When you take the Block check the same RGB wire that you checked above in the 2nd step for being "squished" in a location between the PCB and the block (I have seen this as well)....
 
I had this exact same thing happen, the wire got crushed in between the PCB and Block, fortunately I had another Block kicking around so replaced the wire and voila....RGB worked.
 
The way EK has that RGB wire between the PCB and Block isnt the best as it can move around a little (thats all it takes) while assembling the block.....when I fixed it, I also used some little tiny pieces of masking tape to keep the wire "fixed" in place (pieces of tape over the wire and against the under side (its a void space) of the block while assembling.
 
As for the re-assembling the Block with "used / squashed" plastic washers, the minute I ran Heaven, I saw my GPU get to 56c...which is not normal and too high for my loop, once I re-assembled with new plastic washers, max temp I saw was 46c....which is normal temp.
 
Keep us posted how you make out, include pics once dis-assembled.
 
As for the RGB lighting not working, based upon your pic
2021/10/14 20:14:47
mikey63366
rjbarker
mikey63366
I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 




Not sure what you mean by "looks like one of the pads came off" ? Are you talking about the thermal pads ? .......Did you install the block on the PCB yourself (assuming you did)....pads on backplate or on PCB, if you install the pads correctly, fit the PCB over the block and tighten down they cannot "come off".....
Taking apart and re-applying thermal pads is a breeze
 
Your temps are certainly quite high but not sure how many radiators your using to cool the GPU....you should be able to ensure all thermal pads are correctly installed (correct thickness following the instructions) and re-assemble.
If you tightened the screws on the pcb to block really snug, inspect the little plastic washers prior to re-using, as if they appear deformed / squashed from the initial install, you shouldnt try to re-use them, as you wont get the perfect "tightened seat".......I went thru this when I moved my block from the 3080 to the 3080Ti....use new plastic washers, EK provides enough in the package for a few installs..
 
1. I always use new thermal pads an plastic washers if I have to disassemble and re-install.
2. I tighten down the screws on the pcb "very snug", to the point you begin to squish down the plastic washers slightly.
3. I have seen some folks and EK say not to tighten too much, but if you dont tighten enough you wont get a good "seat"...
 
As for your RGB not working, assuming its the RGB at the end of the Waterblock where the "Vector FTW3" lights up, a couple of things to check:
- First any lighting software, play around with it, if that doesnt do the trick....
- Take the Block apart and check that the little RGB wire connector that lays between the block and PCB didnt come disconnected during the install. (I had this same thing happen).
- When you take the Block check the same RGB wire that you checked above in the 2nd step for being "squished" in a location between the PCB and the block (I have seen this as well)....
 
I had this exact same thing happen, the wire got crushed in between the PCB and Block, fortunately I had another Block kicking around so replaced the wire and voila....RGB worked.
 
The way EK has that RGB wire between the PCB and Block isnt the best as it can move around a little (thats all it takes) while assembling the block.....when I fixed it, I also used some little tiny pieces of masking tape to keep the wire "fixed" in place (pieces of tape over the wire and against the under side (its a void space) of the block while assembling.
 
As for the re-assembling the Block with "used / squashed" plastic washers, the minute I ran Heaven, I saw my GPU get to 56c...which is not normal and too high for my loop, once I re-assembled with new plastic washers, max temp I saw was 46c....which is normal temp.
 
Keep us posted how you make out, include pics once dis-assembled.
 
As for the RGB lighting not working, based upon your pic





One the thermal pads fell off, I will take pictures when I try again  tomorrow.  Also going to try without using the EK blackplate.  I'm using 1 360 rad which more than plenty. 
 Thanks for the tip on the RGB will take look  at this. 
2021/10/14 20:21:18
rjbarker
mikey63366
rjbarker
mikey63366
I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 




Not sure what you mean by "looks like one of the pads came off" ? Are you talking about the thermal pads ? .......Did you install the block on the PCB yourself (assuming you did)....pads on backplate or on PCB, if you install the pads correctly, fit the PCB over the block and tighten down they cannot "come off".....
Taking apart and re-applying thermal pads is a breeze
 
Your temps are certainly quite high but not sure how many radiators your using to cool the GPU....you should be able to ensure all thermal pads are correctly installed (correct thickness following the instructions) and re-assemble.
If you tightened the screws on the pcb to block really snug, inspect the little plastic washers prior to re-using, as if they appear deformed / squashed from the initial install, you shouldnt try to re-use them, as you wont get the perfect "tightened seat".......I went thru this when I moved my block from the 3080 to the 3080Ti....use new plastic washers, EK provides enough in the package for a few installs..
 
1. I always use new thermal pads an plastic washers if I have to disassemble and re-install.
2. I tighten down the screws on the pcb "very snug", to the point you begin to squish down the plastic washers slightly.
3. I have seen some folks and EK say not to tighten too much, but if you dont tighten enough you wont get a good "seat"...
 
As for your RGB not working, assuming its the RGB at the end of the Waterblock where the "Vector FTW3" lights up, a couple of things to check:
- First any lighting software, play around with it, if that doesnt do the trick....
- Take the Block apart and check that the little RGB wire connector that lays between the block and PCB didnt come disconnected during the install. (I had this same thing happen).
- When you take the Block check the same RGB wire that you checked above in the 2nd step for being "squished" in a location between the PCB and the block (I have seen this as well)....
 
I had this exact same thing happen, the wire got crushed in between the PCB and Block, fortunately I had another Block kicking around so replaced the wire and voila....RGB worked.
 
The way EK has that RGB wire between the PCB and Block isnt the best as it can move around a little (thats all it takes) while assembling the block.....when I fixed it, I also used some little tiny pieces of masking tape to keep the wire "fixed" in place (pieces of tape over the wire and against the under side (its a void space) of the block while assembling.
 
As for the re-assembling the Block with "used / squashed" plastic washers, the minute I ran Heaven, I saw my GPU get to 56c...which is not normal and too high for my loop, once I re-assembled with new plastic washers, max temp I saw was 46c....which is normal temp.
 
Keep us posted how you make out, include pics once dis-assembled.
 
As for the RGB lighting not working, based upon your pic





One the thermal pads fell off, I will take pictures when I try again  tomorrow.  Also going to try without using the EK blackplate.  I'm using 1 360 rad which more than plenty. 
 Thanks for the tip on the RGB will take look  at this. 




The pad "fell off" when assembling?
PCB or Backplate...dont quite understand how it can "fall off".....the backplate pads peel off the plastick on one side, then apply that side to the backplate (it will stick on the back plate). Once there all applied you can flip the backplate upside down ..line up the holes and put in place (dont wiggle it around too much)....line up holes almost perfectly prior to "seating it"....
 
You remembered to take all the plastic film off both sides of the pads Im assuming......
Keep us updated what you find with RGB wire once you disassemble.
2021/10/14 23:13:05
mikey63366
rjbarker
mikey63366
rjbarker
mikey63366
I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 




Not sure what you mean by "looks like one of the pads came off" ? Are you talking about the thermal pads ? .......Did you install the block on the PCB yourself (assuming you did)....pads on backplate or on PCB, if you install the pads correctly, fit the PCB over the block and tighten down they cannot "come off".....
Taking apart and re-applying thermal pads is a breeze
 
Your temps are certainly quite high but not sure how many radiators your using to cool the GPU....you should be able to ensure all thermal pads are correctly installed (correct thickness following the instructions) and re-assemble.
If you tightened the screws on the pcb to block really snug, inspect the little plastic washers prior to re-using, as if they appear deformed / squashed from the initial install, you shouldnt try to re-use them, as you wont get the perfect "tightened seat".......I went thru this when I moved my block from the 3080 to the 3080Ti....use new plastic washers, EK provides enough in the package for a few installs..
 
1. I always use new thermal pads an plastic washers if I have to disassemble and re-install.
2. I tighten down the screws on the pcb "very snug", to the point you begin to squish down the plastic washers slightly.
3. I have seen some folks and EK say not to tighten too much, but if you dont tighten enough you wont get a good "seat"...
 
As for your RGB not working, assuming its the RGB at the end of the Waterblock where the "Vector FTW3" lights up, a couple of things to check:
- First any lighting software, play around with it, if that doesnt do the trick....
- Take the Block apart and check that the little RGB wire connector that lays between the block and PCB didnt come disconnected during the install. (I had this same thing happen).
- When you take the Block check the same RGB wire that you checked above in the 2nd step for being "squished" in a location between the PCB and the block (I have seen this as well)....
 
I had this exact same thing happen, the wire got crushed in between the PCB and Block, fortunately I had another Block kicking around so replaced the wire and voila....RGB worked.
 
The way EK has that RGB wire between the PCB and Block isnt the best as it can move around a little (thats all it takes) while assembling the block.....when I fixed it, I also used some little tiny pieces of masking tape to keep the wire "fixed" in place (pieces of tape over the wire and against the under side (its a void space) of the block while assembling.
 
As for the re-assembling the Block with "used / squashed" plastic washers, the minute I ran Heaven, I saw my GPU get to 56c...which is not normal and too high for my loop, once I re-assembled with new plastic washers, max temp I saw was 46c....which is normal temp.
 
Keep us posted how you make out, include pics once dis-assembled.
 
As for the RGB lighting not working, based upon your pic





One the thermal pads fell off, I will take pictures when I try again  tomorrow.  Also going to try without using the EK blackplate.  I'm using 1 360 rad which more than plenty. 
 Thanks for the tip on the RGB will take look  at this. 




The pad "fell off" when assembling?
PCB or Backplate...dont quite understand how it can "fall off".....the backplate pads peel off the plastick on one side, then apply that side to the backplate (it will stick on the back plate). Once there all applied you can flip the backplate upside down ..line up the holes and put in place (dont wiggle it around too much)....line up holes almost perfectly prior to "seating it"....
 
You remembered to take all the plastic film off both sides of the pads Im assuming......
Keep us updated what you find with RGB wire once you disassemble.




Not sure what pad it was.   I will find out :).  I am not sure how it came off either and yes I removed the plastic film
2021/10/15 13:08:53
mikey63366
I replied everything and temps are little better but looks like I will be returning the block as something is not right with this.  rgb not working, makes me wonder if this slip thru QA...
 
Here are pictures after taking apart.
 
I used thermal grizzly this time, forgot to take picture after applying, but it was thin evenly coated line.   
 
https://imgur.com/a/V7j6nYS
 
 
Timespy run has average 55c
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/67288863?
 
2021/10/15 13:49:37
talon951
That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.
2021/10/15 14:41:36
rjbarker
talon951
That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.



Works fine for me as every other EK Block.....looks like the OP had an entire tube of thermal paste on there...wow!! I still dont understand what he means by a thermal pad falling off....hes had it off n on a few times and likely re-using the same thermal pads and plastic washers (not a good idea)........
 
If his peak temp is 55c thats not bad considering he only has a single 360 rad in that loop to cool it....but also look back and see he mentions only running fans on that single rad at 900 RPM.....has he tried 1200 RPM to 1400RPM? ...no idea.....is this his first WB install...looking at the grease maybe ;)
Also look at the "pad job" on the Power Phase modules left side...crooked with a big gap.....and the pad on the lower VRAM chip looks "not right at all"...yeah no idea....
2021/10/15 15:11:56
talon951
Yea but there are so many people popping up with 20C+ deltas at 400-450w. Maybe they just need to work on their mount, but I slapped my 3090 in a Corsair block with stock pads and paste originally and still got about 15C at that power level.
2021/10/15 15:30:31
mikey63366
rjbarker
talon951
That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.



Works fine for me as every other EK Block.....looks like the OP had an entire tube of thermal paste on there...wow!! I still dont understand what he means by a thermal pad falling off....hes had it off n on a few times and likely re-using the same thermal pads and plastic washers (not a good idea)........
 
If his peak temp is 55c thats not bad considering he only has a single 360 rad in that loop to cool it....but also look back and see he mentions only running fans on that single rad at 900 RPM.....has he tried 1200 RPM to 1400RPM? ...no idea.....is this his first WB install...looking at the grease maybe ;)
Also look at the "pad job" on the Power Phase modules left side...crooked with a big gap.....and the pad on the lower VRAM chip looks "not right at all"...yeah no idea....




 
Yes I did use ton of paste, I used alot less this time.   One the thermal pads came off when I flip it over which I put back on during the reinstall.  The cutting is not pretty I will admit that I wish EK would provide precut pads. I would pay extra for it!.  
 
Anyways...
 
I was running fans @1,300 rpm and pump @ 50%.  Water temp was at 34-35. 
 
I did find my problem not sure how this happen as this was new pump, rad and etc..
 
Looks like something is clogged in the block?  This had to come from the factory some how.
 
https://imgur.com/a/Tm8F4zs
 
 
This is not my first loop.  I had 3080 FE with bitspower waterblock installed and my temps where around 45-48.  I ended up selling that computer.  
 
I have now uninstalled the waterblock and went back with evga stock.  Temps look just fine so far.
 
Not sure what I want to do here.   Biggest reason I sold my other computer b/c I wanted to get away from the custom loop as  I didn't want to do maintenance on it. 
2021/10/15 15:42:35
rjbarker
mikey63366
rjbarker
talon951
That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.



Works fine for me as every other EK Block.....looks like the OP had an entire tube of thermal paste on there...wow!! I still dont understand what he means by a thermal pad falling off....hes had it off n on a few times and likely re-using the same thermal pads and plastic washers (not a good idea)........
 
If his peak temp is 55c thats not bad considering he only has a single 360 rad in that loop to cool it....but also look back and see he mentions only running fans on that single rad at 900 RPM.....has he tried 1200 RPM to 1400RPM? ...no idea.....is this his first WB install...looking at the grease maybe ;)
Also look at the "pad job" on the Power Phase modules left side...crooked with a big gap.....and the pad on the lower VRAM chip looks "not right at all"...yeah no idea....




 
Yes I did use ton of paste, I used alot less this time.   One the thermal pads came off when I flip it over which I put back on during the reinstall.  The cutting is not pretty I will admit that I wish EK would provide precut pads. I would pay extra for it!.  
 
Anyways...
 
I was running fans @1,300 rpm and pump @ 50%.  Water temp was at 34-35. 
 
I did find my problem not sure how this happen as this was new pump, rad and etc..
 
Looks like something is clogged in the block?  This had to come from the factory some how.
 
https://imgur.com/a/Tm8F4zs
 
 
This is not my first loop.  I had 3080 FE with bitspower waterblock installed and my temps where around 45-48.  I ended up selling that computer.  
 
I have now uninstalled the waterblock and went back with evga stock.  Temps look just fine so far.
 
Not sure what I want to do here.   Biggest reason I sold my other computer b/c I wanted to get away from the custom loop as  I didn't want to do maintenance on it. 




Not sure but definitely see a fairly substantial air bubble in the block....some gunk maybe in 1 set of fins....but I have had an EK Block on both my 1080Ti's (SLi) whereby I hadnt flushed in 2.5 yrs...when I took the blocks apart the fins were a little clogged with some gunk but temps were still fine......
If your RGB lighting capable was firmly attached and the wire wasnt squished when you took it apart to inspect, I would say a defective RGB strip in the end of the Block and that alone is worthy of a replacement....contact EK Support.

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