2021/09/22 18:21:35
talon951
Yea they just hit the posts. It's not like you're cranking it down a bunch more.

I know this is a EK block thread, but all this talk finally got me to washer my Corsair block. Gained about 1C. Measurable, but nothing significant. I was getting high 14.xx C to low 15C. Down from high 15 to low 16C at 500w.
2021/09/22 18:33:18
TahoeDust
KingEngineRevUp
TahoeDust
KingEngineRevUp
I also want to let you know that a user over at Overclock.net measured the actual reading of the card and it can draw more than 450W. 
 
https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-3080-ti-owners-club.1791823/post-28835729
 
EVGA has come out and said that their cards are not read correctly by 3rd party software. 
 
So keep in mind, you're more than likely drawing a lot more heat than you think you are. That may also be a reason why the deltas are higher. 
 
490W vs your 320W 3080 Ventus is a 50% increase in heat, so imagine you were getting 13-15C before, that is 20-22.5C now. 
 
But yes, definitely try to tighten the screws a bit more if you can. 



Do you not worry at all about cracking the die when tightening down?  How tight are we really wanting to go here.  Is there a suggested number out there?  I snugged them pretty well, but I do a bit of gunsmithing and have some nice fitting driver bits and a in/lb torque wrench.  I could REALLY tighten them down if I wanted.


The standoffs, screws and boss (pad) height were already all engineered to a certain mounting pressure. That's what I did when I used to do electromechanical avionics in one of my past jobs.

I bottomed the screws out and my die is not cracked. I actually double washered the 4 screws too with extra plastic washers that came stock to make sure I bottomed it out.

The only reason I did this though is because I already know the EKWB puts "acceptable" mounting pressure. Not enough to crack the die.

This took retorque the card 3 times to double check to not crack the die. I didn't just go crank it down the first time.

Lastly, ymmv. I'm not responsible for anyone else here double washering and they end up damaging their card. I'm just reporting what I did to get the best deltas I can with this WB.

10-4.  I guess the giant warning in the EKWB instruction about over tightening and cracking the dye gave me pause.  Maybe I will pull the card a re-tighten this weekend.
 
 
...or just order the Optimus block Friday.  If I am going to pull the card, may as well try something new.
2021/09/22 19:34:03
KingEngineRevUp
TahoeDust
KingEngineRevUp
TahoeDust
KingEngineRevUp
I also want to let you know that a user over at Overclock.net measured the actual reading of the card and it can draw more than 450W. 

https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-3080-ti-owners-club.1791823/post-28835729

EVGA has come out and said that their cards are not read correctly by 3rd party software. 

So keep in mind, you're more than likely drawing a lot more heat than you think you are. That may also be a reason why the deltas are higher. 

490W vs your 320W 3080 Ventus is a 50% increase in heat, so imagine you were getting 13-15C before, that is 20-22.5C now. 

But yes, definitely try to tighten the screws a bit more if you can. 



Do you not worry at all about cracking the die when tightening down?  How tight are we really wanting to go here.  Is there a suggested number out there?  I snugged them pretty well, but I do a bit of gunsmithing and have some nice fitting driver bits and a in/lb torque wrench.  I could REALLY tighten them down if I wanted.


The standoffs, screws and boss (pad) height were already all engineered to a certain mounting pressure. That's what I did when I used to do electromechanical avionics in one of my past jobs.

I bottomed the screws out and my die is not cracked. I actually double washered the 4 screws too with extra plastic washers that came stock to make sure I bottomed it out.

The only reason I did this though is because I already know the EKWB puts "acceptable" mounting pressure. Not enough to crack the die.

This took retorque the card 3 times to double check to not crack the die. I didn't just go crank it down the first time.

Lastly, ymmv. I'm not responsible for anyone else here double washering and they end up damaging their card. I'm just reporting what I did to get the best deltas I can with this WB.

10-4.  I guess the giant warning in the EKWB instruction about over tightening and cracking the dye gave me pause.  Maybe I will pull the card a re-tighten this weekend.
 
 
...or just order the Optimus block Friday.  If I am going to pull the card, may as well try something new.


I can't justify a Optimus block when that can go towards a 4080 Ti in like 12 months lol
2021/09/22 19:52:51
talon951
KingEngineRevUp
TahoeDust
KingEngineRevUp
TahoeDust
KingEngineRevUp
I also want to let you know that a user over at Overclock.net measured the actual reading of the card and it can draw more than 450W. 

https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-3080-ti-owners-club.1791823/post-28835729

EVGA has come out and said that their cards are not read correctly by 3rd party software. 

So keep in mind, you're more than likely drawing a lot more heat than you think you are. That may also be a reason why the deltas are higher. 

490W vs your 320W 3080 Ventus is a 50% increase in heat, so imagine you were getting 13-15C before, that is 20-22.5C now. 

But yes, definitely try to tighten the screws a bit more if you can. 



Do you not worry at all about cracking the die when tightening down?  How tight are we really wanting to go here.  Is there a suggested number out there?  I snugged them pretty well, but I do a bit of gunsmithing and have some nice fitting driver bits and a in/lb torque wrench.  I could REALLY tighten them down if I wanted.


The standoffs, screws and boss (pad) height were already all engineered to a certain mounting pressure. That's what I did when I used to do electromechanical avionics in one of my past jobs.

I bottomed the screws out and my die is not cracked. I actually double washered the 4 screws too with extra plastic washers that came stock to make sure I bottomed it out.

The only reason I did this though is because I already know the EKWB puts "acceptable" mounting pressure. Not enough to crack the die.

This took retorque the card 3 times to double check to not crack the die. I didn't just go crank it down the first time.

Lastly, ymmv. I'm not responsible for anyone else here double washering and they end up damaging their card. I'm just reporting what I did to get the best deltas I can with this WB.

10-4.  I guess the giant warning in the EKWB instruction about over tightening and cracking the dye gave me pause.  Maybe I will pull the card a re-tighten this weekend.
 
 
...or just order the Optimus block Friday.  If I am going to pull the card, may as well try something new.


I can't justify a Optimus block when that can go towards a 4080 Ti in like 12 months lol


Are they putting those up every Friday and can be easily snagged or is this another F5 battle?
2021/09/22 19:59:16
TahoeDust
talon951
Are they putting those up every Friday and can be easily snagged or is this another F5 battle?

Seam pretty easy to snag.  I saw them available to order last Friday but didn't pull the trigger.  If they are there this Friday I may.  I think shipping time is still like 3-4 weeks from order though.
2021/09/22 20:01:39
TahoeDust
KingEngineRevUp
I can't justify a Optimus block when that can go towards a 4080 Ti in like 12 months lol

Meh.  Optimus block will still be worth something in 12 months.  Even at half value, cost of ownership would only be ~$150.  I can live with that...not much in this hobby.
2021/09/22 20:10:17
KingEngineRevUp
The Optimus block is going up on Fridays but there have been severe delays. Their Twitter account is the best way to see their release news.

As for being an F5, I don't think it's that bad.
2021/09/23 05:59:27
Kasque
the FTW is easely overcklokable though
2021/09/23 14:20:03
xmanrigger
Mrostom
Hey guys,
When you install the WB do you need to flash the card with another bios? Since the card won’t be using the fans any more?
Is there anything else that needs to be done?


No. Disregard GPU fan speed if using a FC waterblock. The only reason you would want to mess with the GPU's BIOS is if overclocking and want more control.
2021/09/23 21:20:21
eg1122
Here is my build. I'll take better pics once I get a better camera/phone.

Corsair 7000D
MSI MEG Z590 Ace
Intel i9-11900k w/Corsair Waterblock
EVGA 3090 FTW3 w/EK Waterblock
Corsair Vengeance 32gb RAM @ 3600mhz
WD_Black SN850 1tb SSD
WD_Black SN750 1tb SSD
WD_Blue SN550 2tb SSD
EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 80+ Gold
Corsair/Bitspower fittings
Corsair hardline 14mm tube
Corsair XD5 Pump/Res Combo
Corsair QL120 fans
480mm radiator
360mm radiator
120mm radiator
Mayhem Pastel Dark Grey Coolant




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