MrEWhite

EVGATech_ChrisB
Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:

1. CEP(Current Excursion Protection) -> Enable
2. eTVB(Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
3. TVB(Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
4. TVB Votage Optimizations -> Enable
5. ICCMAX Unlimited Bit -> Disable
6. C-states -> Enable
7. TjMAX Offset -> 0
8. Unlimited ICCMAX - Disabled
9. Long Duration Package Power Limit(PL1) - Auto
10. Short Duration Package Power Limit(PL2) - Auto

Adjustment:

• The 1-7 parameters follow Intel Default Settings; users can adjust the values manually.
• The 8-10 parameters follow values from below CPU mapping table, users can adjust the values manually but cannot exceed the highest value limits of the mapping table linked below (When the Intel Default Settings is Enabled).

 
Reference:  Intel Recommendations:  https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807
 
Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors (Power Delivery Profiles):
Core i5, i7 = Performance
Core i9 = Extreme
         
 
 

evgasjtx59

EVGATech_ChrisB
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.

Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?

It looks like the "Extreme" power delivery profile isn't applying correctly. I'm on a i9 13900KS and it's only pulling 253w max with the Intel Defaults.

According to Intel's ARK paper, 253W is the max default. -> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/232167/intel-core-i9-13900ks-processor-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz.html
 

bdary

MrEWhite

EVGATech_ChrisB
Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:

1. CEP(Current Excursion Protection) -> Enable
2. eTVB(Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
3. TVB(Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
4. TVB Votage Optimizations -> Enable
5. ICCMAX Unlimited Bit -> Disable
6. C-states -> Enable
7. TjMAX Offset -> 0
8. Unlimited ICCMAX - Disabled
9. Long Duration Package Power Limit(PL1) - Auto
10. Short Duration Package Power Limit(PL2) - Auto

Adjustment:

• The 1-7 parameters follow Intel Default Settings; users can adjust the values manually.
• The 8-10 parameters follow values from below CPU mapping table, users can adjust the values manually but cannot exceed the highest value limits of the mapping table linked below (When the Intel Default Settings is Enabled).

 
Reference:  Intel Recommendations:  https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807
 
Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors (Power Delivery Profiles):
Core i5, i7 = Performance
Core i9 = Extreme
         
 
 

evgasjtx59

EVGATech_ChrisB
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.

Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?

It looks like the "Extreme" power delivery profile isn't applying correctly. I'm on a i9 13900KS and it's only pulling 253w max with the Intel Defaults.

According to Intel's ARK paper, 253W is the max default. -> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/232167/intel-core-i9-13900ks-processor-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz.html
 

In the post from Intel that Chris linked, it says they recommend the 320w Extreme profile for the 13900KS and 14900KS.

I think because you are using the "Intel Default setting in your BIOS, you'll get Intel's default 253W. If you turn off Intel's default setting in BIOS, that's where you may see the 320W settings.

Straight from horse's mouth:
 
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807?lightbox-message-images-1607807=56057i81282C3BCB9162A9
 

ilukeberry
Straight from horse's mouth:
 
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807?lightbox-message-images-1607807=56057i81282C3BCB9162A9
 

That's what I was saying in my post above. The Performance column for the 13900KS is what you'll get using the New Intel Default settings (253W). But Intel allows you to override those settings if you want. If you disable the Intel Default settings and use whatever EVGA calls their optimized default setting, you're likely to see 320W. I don't use an EVGA board so I can't test this myself, but you guys using EVGA's Z790 boards can easily verify things.
 
I know on my ASUS board running the latest MCU, the Intel default settings show 253W max. When I switch to ASUS Optimized Defaults, all those voltages and wattage limits are higher.

Thank you for the feedback and we will look into this as well.
 

MrEWhite

EVGATech_ChrisB
Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:

1. CEP(Current Excursion Protection) -> Enable
2. eTVB(Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
3. TVB(Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
4. TVB Votage Optimizations -> Enable
5. ICCMAX Unlimited Bit -> Disable
6. C-states -> Enable
7. TjMAX Offset -> 0
8. Unlimited ICCMAX - Disabled
9. Long Duration Package Power Limit(PL1) - Auto
10. Short Duration Package Power Limit(PL2) - Auto

Adjustment:

• The 1-7 parameters follow Intel Default Settings; users can adjust the values manually.
• The 8-10 parameters follow values from below CPU mapping table, users can adjust the values manually but cannot exceed the highest value limits of the mapping table linked below (When the Intel Default Settings is Enabled).

 
Reference:  Intel Recommendations:  https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807
 
Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors (Power Delivery Profiles):
Core i5, i7 = Performance
Core i9 = Extreme
         
 
 

evgasjtx59

EVGATech_ChrisB
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.

Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?

It looks like the "Extreme" power delivery profile isn't applying correctly. I'm on a i9 13900KS and it's only pulling 253w max with the Intel Defaults.

I need some help. Every time I try to run the bat I get a BSOD.
 
What can I do?

Same happened to me. Put BIOS image to USB and flash it from BIOS.

bdary

ilukeberry
Straight from horse's mouth:
 
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807?lightbox-message-images-1607807=56057i81282C3BCB9162A9
 

That's what I was saying in my post above. The Performance column for the 13900KS is what you'll get using the New Intel Default settings (253W). But Intel allows you to override those settings if you want. If you disable the Intel Default settings and use whatever EVGA calls their optimized default setting, you're likely to see 320W. I don't use an EVGA board so I can't test this myself, but you guys using EVGA's Z790 boards can easily verify things.
 
I know on my ASUS board running the latest MCU, the Intel default settings show 253W max. When I switch to ASUS Optimized Defaults, all those voltages and wattage limits are higher.

Turning off the default actually lets it go in excess of 320w (ran a quick Cinebench R23 run and it hit 350w), so neither are the Extreme settings.

MrEWhite

bdary

ilukeberry
Straight from horse's mouth:
 
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807?lightbox-message-images-1607807=56057i81282C3BCB9162A9
 

That's what I was saying in my post above. The Performance column for the 13900KS is what you'll get using the New Intel Default settings (253W). But Intel allows you to override those settings if you want. If you disable the Intel Default settings and use whatever EVGA calls their optimized default setting, you're likely to see 320W. I don't use an EVGA board so I can't test this myself, but you guys using EVGA's Z790 boards can easily verify things.
 
I know on my ASUS board running the latest MCU, the Intel default settings show 253W max. When I switch to ASUS Optimized Defaults, all those voltages and wattage limits are higher.

Turning off the default actually lets it go in excess of 320w (ran a quick Cinebench R23 run and it hit 350w), so neither are the Extreme settings.

Makes sense actually. Adding in the "new" Intel default settings in the MC update restricted the power limits to Intel's actual default. When you turn off the Intel default, most or all  power settings go back to how things were prior to the whole Intel debacle. That's how it seems to me anyway based on my own testing.