2022/04/17 12:01:24
DaBogo
Hi EVGA Team & Community!
 
I have a question about the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra performance:
I just posted on official bios thread that i had to re-flash both bios version to original ones from the Bios Thread and upgrade them but this time without fastboot enabled under my bios.
Everything went great and i am really happy for that cause i was thinking that my card is broken or whatever :) But then after upgrading the new bios/last bios from july 2021 on the normal mode
to this version: VBIOS Version: 94.02.71.80.74
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/235802/evga-rtx3080ti-12288-210712 my issue started again. What is my issue? Well the card is getting to hot and somehow i see stuttering but only in game (i only have fortnite installed or at least i only play this game. I could test some others if needed.
 
Since english is not my spoken language i will try to explain this with screenshots i have done.
https://ibb.co/cyBCksy px1 start - seem all normal
https://ibb.co/r2pdmQs what you can see on this screenshot is a game running in the background...
IMPORTANT:
All the stutterings and unstable FPS or as you can see the memory clock changing from 95xx to half ... this is happening while i'm IN GAME...
as SOON i get PX1 on the screen to do screenshots - as you can see the HW Monitor shows me everything stable.
https://ibb.co/L1pDd2Y ^ same as 2nd Link, from HW Monitoring from PX1 but just more or other sensores. You can compare them you will see it match - there is a clear picture when is wwhat happening when "In-Game vs. Notingame" but the game was running in the background.
https://ibb.co/LC1mM1k GPU 10min Stresstest or Test with OCCT
 
This was working under my OC bios from the first day i recieved my card until, as written, few days ago when i found i never tested the normal bios, went under the normal bios and upgraded to the latest version.
 
What are other differences between NORMAL vs. OC Bios? I always read "only fan curve and normal has 0% spin option" but if so why would my PC handle the one same game so unstable? It has to be something which tells the card that if the Game somehow is maybe not so demanding, or like i run fortnite under performance mode that the card should not clock to it's max performance.
Ps:
Yes i reinstalled the drivers / used DDU latest version from Guru3D / i also runed HYDRA latest version today and OC my system again,
i dont have any other issues, my bios as written is on the latest version, no other monitoring tools but i tested GPU 10mins as you can see on screenshot to see if there will be errors but non found.
 
find my PC Specs or Hardware below:
 
Driver Easy TXT Report
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Overview
    Machine                ASUS
    Operating System        Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-bit)
    Memory                32 GB
    Processor            AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor            
    Motherboard            ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. - ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO
    Video Cards            NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
    Monitors            ROG PG259QN
    Hard Disk            WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0 (500.0 GB)
    Network Card            Intel(R) I211 Gigabit Network Connection

CPU

    Specification            AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor            
    Family                15
    Revision            B0
    Instructions            MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, NX, VMX, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3


Clocks
    Core Speed            3699.1 MHz
    Multiplier            x 37
    Bus Speed            100 MHz
    QPILink                --
^ CPU OC done with latest Hydra from 1usmus.
^ my RAM is tuned manual also done with Ryzen DRAM Calculator from Yuri and timing from Yuri approved and no errors when checking my Ram.
I have also CMOS bios and run only XMP or DOCP ram without to change anything manual and left everything else on Auto within the bios
but the issue was the same.

Cache
    L1 Data                32 KBytes
    L1 Inst                32 KBytes
    Level 2                512 KBytes
    Level3                32768 KBytes

Motherboard
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Motherboard
    Manufacturer            ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    Model                ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO

BIOS on the Motherboard <- latest from the Asus Dark Hero web-page.

    Core Speed            American Megatrends Inc.
    Version                4006
    Date                03/07/2022

Memory
General
    Type                DDR4
    Size                32768 MBytes
    Channel#            --
    DC Model            --
    NB Frequency            --


Timings
    DRAM Frequency            1899.6 MHz
    FSB:DRAM            --
    CAS# Latency(CL)        14 clocks
    RAS# to CAS# Delay(tRCD)    15 clocks
    RAS# Precharge(tRP)        16 clocks
    Cycle Time(rRAS)        34 clocks
    Bank Cycle Time(tRC)        --
    Command Rate(CR)        1 clocks




Graphics
GPU
    Name                NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
Memory
    Size                12288 MBytes
    Type                15






 
2022/04/17 12:07:48
Sajin
If you go back to the older vbios the issue goes away?
2022/04/17 12:18:22
DaBogo
Sajin
If you go back to the older vbios the issue goes away?

Thanks Sajin for the fast Question. I just updated the post with screenshots and tried to explain.
I just re-flashed the normal bios on the card with the first one from Bios Thread and did not upgrade it yet. I will do a test and will post here an update.
 
Ps: comparing to normal bios, when gaming under the OC bios i see under PX1 / Hardware Monitoring everything maxed out. There is nothing like "card getting used only as much as needed"
Under Normal bios i also tried to lock frequencies and under nvidia pannel i tried to put maximal performance but still did not worked out. PX1 locked frequencies but performance was still bad.
This also could be re-produced after re-flashing all to original and upgrading to last versions without fastboot enabled.
 
Yes, i have not tested with the first bios. Will do soon and update the thread.
Thanks
Dali
2022/04/17 12:34:57
Sajin
No problem. Looking forward to your update.
2022/04/17 13:07:34
DaBogo
Hi Sajin,
 
The game itself can be played but i see stuttering when i change direction for example and that happeneds really fast. I also note a huge lag compared to oc mode because the whole moving feels laggy ingame. Below the screenshots made from hardware monitoring and also CPU vs GPU idle temp before i started any application... there are 24c difference between in idle mode. Of course i dont know how much would temp be under OC mode if the fans were off (haha) but it's still really hot.
And the strange point is: If you take a look from one PX1 screenshot while i was in-game just before - you will not note any big temp. difference.
Yesterday (please EVGA Team / Community and GPU Gods forgive me...) i installed GeForce Expirience after did clean new driver install with DDU and played the game with DX12 with all settings hit on maximum... And with everything set to maximum the card performed... i still had to turned off after that effects / so much shadows and so on BUT it was not so unstable with memory clock and mhz clock and so on.
 
Is there any information avaiable about thresholds and how which bios on this card is handling the loads?
 
https://ibb.co/yf5F03n - HW - Monitor gpu usage / gpu voltage / framerate.

https://ibb.co/6tcMB07 - HW - Monitor gpu usage / gpu voltage / framerate.

https://ibb.co/gyG2WDS - 58c with fans activated (under load) ... if there is no load the card will go also that hot or even hit up 60C without to activate fans.

https://ibb.co/WDnqdgs - PX1 HW Monitor in-game pt. 1

https://ibb.co/SsDkG3h - idle temp CPU vs GPU

https://ibb.co/Yfc6qMS - PX1 HW monitor in-game pt. 2
 
Normal Bios was flashed back to the version: VBIOS Version: 94.02.71.00.AF
 
I noted a difference, but it's a small one. I dont use msi afterburner but yesterday i also installed it and saw that the powerboard limit and also same for geforce expirience tool, can be extended for max. "12%". PX1 allowes +13.
 
I dont know... still does not feels right. I dont know if the card also is not performing because the temps from the beggining are very high and GPU Memory is between 60 and 62degrees? but it's a totally different behavior on the same hardware.
 
Thanks
Dali
2022/04/17 13:29:50
Sajin
So does this issue happen on other games or just fortnite? How do your cpu temps look while playing for 15 minutes?
2022/04/17 13:41:05
DaBogo
For now. Let me see what i can find on my steam account.. i believe i should have Immortals Fenyx Rising if i‘m not wrong.

Ps: feel free to tell me if there is no issue at all and this behavior on the gpu is very normal? I mean - only because i see something for the first time doesnt means that this is an issue…

Will update this thread as soon i have done some more tests.

Ps: just to answer the question about the cpu temps: my cpu stays around 47/50c and hits oe has peaks sometimes around 60/60+ but only peakwize.
2022/04/17 13:46:42
Sajin
Clocks shouldn’t be jumping around, but they can if the gpu thinks it doesn’t need to use full performance because the load isn’t high enough. Does dsring to 4K stabilize your clocks and gpu usage?
2022/04/17 13:59:10
DaBogo
i also never seen memory clock jumping around like that or that temp stays where is on idle…
4K is something i would need to fake i guess since i only have 1 1920x1080 monitor (pg259qn) running at 360Hz with very good DP cable and GSync activated. I dont have other monitors at home.

But i can try with dx11 and everything on max with and without dlss and dx12 with ray tracing ti see if the card will perform better.

Until done i can only imagine that on normal bios the card is somehow „pre-checking“ how much resources it takes to run the game but again - memory clock shoudnt be jumping even the clock speed i can agree can jump. Memory usage is ok if goes up and down.
2022/04/17 14:12:18
rjbarker
Have you applied any OC'ing changes in the BIOS?
I see you have your Memory running CR 1T ...not sure if this is default with Ryzen?
 
Be sure all your CPU BIOS settings are default, including Memory, prior to further troubleshooting.
 

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