2021/10/05 17:45:36
yenzidbr
In an effort to follow the instructions, I was trimming my list down to (2) desired video cards--but I misread the model numbers and removed the wrong one! Is there a way to reverse this?
 
~Thanks!
2021/10/05 17:52:56
kram36
EVGATech_LeeM
kram36
Eh, EVGA doesn't offer a -KL version of this card.
 
https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+30+Series+Family&chipset=RTX+3080

Then this would be my advice.  It's very unlikely you'll see more -KR cards of any type, including HC cards.  If you are willing to give up a notification option for a possibility that we will make a -KL HC card down the road, then we would switch people still in the -KR queue over to that one.  However, I can't guarantee that we will have more HC cards.  And therein lies the rub.
 
The far better option would be to use a notify on an ULTRA card and purchase a third-party block for it.  That would generally give you a much better chance for success. 
 
I hope that can be of some use to you.


Understood, thank you.
2021/10/05 17:55:06
MootedOut
EVGATech_LeeM
hipstercat
Thank you for your response and yes but if only the two oldest entries are going to count going forward, we need to have better visibility into the probability of getting them to be able to make an informed decision.
 
For example, there is a big difference between "do not expect many" and "if at all". Some people might want to keep one of their two entries in the -KR queue if there is still some chance, otherwise it just does not make sense to waste the entry. Different -KR queues might have different chances too.
 
Please consider sharing some information to help us pick the entries to keep. It was not an issue before, but with the new rules it would be really helpful to have at least some insight on how realistic staying in a given -KR queue is if we are to pick only two entries.

Respectfully, we've pretty much already given this guidance.  Under most circumstances, we probably wouldn't say anything due to giving internal information.  Telling people which SKUs we will likely have available informs our competition, as well.  Also, up to a certain level, we cannot control what we chips we have available to make and other material shortages may force decisions about which products we make down the road.  I would suggest that any guidance we're giving here should be taken literally, and that if you choose a different part number or type of card, you do so with the understanding that we cannot guarantee that there will be more.
 
To reiterate the advice we've given publicly -
 
LHR vs. Non-LHR - With the exception of the GeForce RTX 3090 cards (which are non-LHR only), we do not expect to fill many orders for non-LHR cards at this point.  We cannot give much guidance past that.  I would only consider staying in a non-LHR (-KR) queue for the RTX 3080, 3070, 3060 Ti cards if you only want a card for mining and have no interest in a card for any other purpose. 
 
HYBRID, HYDRO COPPER, K|NGP|N - These are impacted queues.  If your goal at this point is to get at least one 30 Series card, I would choose at least one or both XC3 ULTRA GAMING OR FTW3 ULTRA GAMING card as one of your 2 notifications.  If your goal is to try to get two 30 Series cards, then I would suggest removing the HYBRID, HYDRO COPPER, and K|NGP|N cards from your notification list.  If you only want a HYBRID, HC, or KPE card, and you are willing to risk not getting a(nother) 30 Series card, then feel free to keep these cards in your notification queue.
 
XC3 GAMING, XC3 BLACK GAMING, FTW3 GAMING - Note the lack of ULTRA in these names.  Jacob noted that the XC3 ULTRA GAMING and FTW3 ULTRA GAMING cards are the ones that will have most availability.  Some of you have noticed in the queue summaries that some of these part numbers have moved very slowly since launch.  I would not expect them to suddenly surge forward at this point.  If you have the choice between XC3/XC3 BLACK and XC3 ULTRA, or FTW3 and FTW3 ULTRA, we strongly suggest you keep the ULTRA cards in your notification queue. 
 
I understand that everyone would love to have perfect knowledge when making their decisions here, but the subtext on these is pretty clear.  If the guidance was less black and white about what we think will be available, then we wouldn't offer it in the first place.




Thank you for the really good clarification. I was curious about the best way to clear up my list.

 

2021/10/05 18:02:02
hipstercat
EVGATech_LeeM
hipstercat
Thank you for your response and yes but if only the two oldest entries are going to count going forward, we need to have better visibility into the probability of getting them to be able to make an informed decision.
 
For example, there is a big difference between "do not expect many" and "if at all". Some people might want to keep one of their two entries in the -KR queue if there is still some chance, otherwise it just does not make sense to waste the entry. Different -KR queues might have different chances too.
 
Please consider sharing some information to help us pick the entries to keep. It was not an issue before, but with the new rules it would be really helpful to have at least some insight on how realistic staying in a given -KR queue is if we are to pick only two entries.

Respectfully, we've pretty much already given this guidance.  Under most circumstances, we probably wouldn't say anything due to giving internal information.  Telling people which SKUs we will likely have available informs our competition, as well.  Also, up to a certain level, we cannot control what we chips we have available to make and other material shortages may force decisions about which products we make down the road.  I would suggest that any guidance we're giving here should be taken literally, and that if you choose a different part number or type of card, you do so with the understanding that we cannot guarantee that there will be more.
 
To reiterate the advice we've given publicly -
 
LHR vs. Non-LHR - With the exception of the GeForce RTX 3090 cards (which are non-LHR only), we do not expect to fill many orders for non-LHR cards at this point.  We cannot give much guidance past that.  I would only consider staying in a non-LHR (-KR) queue for the RTX 3080, 3070, 3060 Ti cards if you only want a card for mining and have no interest in a card for any other purpose. 
 
HYBRID, HYDRO COPPER, K|NGP|N - These are impacted queues.  If your goal at this point is to get at least one 30 Series card, I would choose at least one or both XC3 ULTRA GAMING OR FTW3 ULTRA GAMING card as one of your 2 notifications.  If your goal is to try to get two 30 Series cards, then I would suggest removing the HYBRID, HYDRO COPPER, and K|NGP|N cards from your notification list.  If you only want a HYBRID, HC, or KPE card, and you are willing to risk not getting a(nother) 30 Series card, then feel free to keep these cards in your notification queue.
 
XC3 GAMING, XC3 BLACK GAMING, FTW3 GAMING - Note the lack of ULTRA in these names.  Jacob noted that the XC3 ULTRA GAMING and FTW3 ULTRA GAMING cards are the ones that will have most availability.  Some of you have noticed in the queue summaries that some of these part numbers have moved very slowly since launch.  I would not expect them to suddenly surge forward at this point.  If you have the choice between XC3/XC3 BLACK and XC3 ULTRA, or FTW3 and FTW3 ULTRA, we strongly suggest you keep the ULTRA cards in your notification queue. 
 
I understand that everyone would love to have perfect knowledge when making their decisions here, but the subtext on these is pretty clear.  If the guidance was less black and white about what we think will be available, then we wouldn't offer it in the first place.




This is very helpful, thank you for your understanding and for this guidance, it really sheds some light and helps make the decisions!
 
Also huge thanks to team EVGA for doing this, you are pretty much the only manufacturer that cares and helps people get the cards while the others just feed the bots through the major online retailers. It is really appreciated!
2021/10/05 18:06:07
AmaranthChain
What happens if we missed a notification and signed up again?
I signed-up on 12/17/2020 but missed a notification for a 3090 KingPin because I was offline for a chunk of a week and then signed up again on 3/10/2021.
Will that missed chance hurt my chances of getting a card?
2021/10/05 18:13:30
kevinc313
Lwclancers
Ya'll whining are so late....this was announced yesterday morning (or earlier) through multiple outlets




It has been changed as of a few hours ago, it is now different than the announcement yesterday.
2021/10/05 18:13:46
EVGA_Lee
AmaranthChain
What happens if we missed a notification and signed up again?
I signed-up on 12/17/2020 but missed a notification for a 3090 KingPin because I was offline for a chunk of a week and then signed up again on 3/10/2021.
Will that missed chance hurt my chances of getting a card?

No.  Since you signed up again, that is your current date.  I would just do your best not to miss the next notification if you can.  Can't help with the offline part, but maybe you could setup a forwarding message to another person to keep an eye on that for you.
2021/10/05 18:29:05
EVGA_Lee
For those of you that were having trouble removing notifications, could you please try again?  We fixed some stuff.
2021/10/05 18:31:39
jmb414
i just removed my auto notify for 10G-P5-3895-KR based on the queue summary and notes that the ULTRA models are the ones we should be going for, but now i can't add another GPU SKU to my list. am i doing something wrong here? did i just cut my chances in half?
2021/10/05 18:39:38
nomoss
Thank you for the updates Lee.  That advice is very helpful.

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