2022/04/14 07:21:03
Jomama22
MDN79
Audioboxer
Anyone else with an LHR 3080 struggling to get it going over 400w even with the 450w BIOS?

I see that the VC is underloaded. Maybe that is one of the reason.
And yeah, 1080p loads tha card significantly less than 1440p, for example. So try to check that on 2k, I assure you will see much more power drawn. And do not froget to switch off any FPS cap.
My problem still is that VC reveals limiting far earlier then 450 Vtt. In Metro Exodus enhanced power limit takes place at already 400 Vtts.
 
Jomama22
Only concern is the fans. Possible one may not operate and/or they do not have the same rpm range (fans may run slower).

Also, it is possible an HDMI/dp port may not work as well.

I tried 1000 Vtt bios from HOF, fans and ports are healthy on 3080 Ti FTW3U, but monitoring shows strange numbers. For example, on two PCI-E power plugs it reports about 10.00 Volts, not 12. In fact it is 12, I checked that with voltmeter.
And also sad thing is to see strong power disbalance between power plugs. 3rd one tells about 50-60 Vtts, when 2 othes  are highly loaded.
 
I would ask EVGA engs again to fix power consumption on3080 tis.


Wouldn't be surprised if the watts figure is just a VxA calculation going on and just part of the odd voltage reporting errors.

Would run some tests to see if it does indeed increase total power. Also, I wouldn't be worried about the pin power imbalance, known issue when swapping bios'.
2022/04/14 07:35:16
MDN79
Yep, it might be any kind of mistakes on third party bioses.
As for test, the consumption is defenitely rising. In kombustor it's around 600 Wtts. Whcich means for me to switch it off immediately )))
In Metro or other tests no power limits occur, it's some increse in consumption, but it is hard to compare. As I remember (I sold me first FTW3), running this bios shows less consumption, but with possibility to overclock it more. Metro can work at almost 2200 with high voltage, which is good but hot even under watercooling.
Now I'm using stock bios, but WC on the card decreases consumption very well due to less leakage currents. So I can get more even on stock.
It looks like this now, I mean WC system:

2022/04/14 07:51:17
Jomama22
MDN79
Yep, it might any kind of mistakes on third party bioses.
As for test, the consumption is defenitely rising. In kombustor it's around 600 Wtts. Whcich means for me to switch it off immediately )))
In Metro or other tests no power limits occur, it's some increse in consumption, but it is hard to compare. As I remember (I sold me first FTW3), running this bios shows less consumption, but with possibility to overclock it more. Metro can work at almost 2200 with high voltage, which is good but hot even under watercooling.
Now I'm using stock bios, but WC on the card decreases consumption very well due to less leakage currents. So I can get more even on stock.
It looks like this now, I mean WC system:



Yeah, I feel you about the heat. You can always use the power % slider to reduce total power the card is consuming, no matter the bios, if it is of concern.

In everyday use, you really aren't going to notice all that much of a performance increase. Best it allows you to do is maintain a voltage for a higher stable core clock since you aren't being power throttled. Rarely will a game demand over 600w at 1.1v.

As an example, on my shunted/volt modded strix, I'll max out around 620w @ 1.13v load in rdr2 in a completely gpu limited scene (4k, max graphics settings). There are other games that will happily pull more but I have not encountered them.

Benching on the other hand, pulled well over 850w @ 1.33v lol
2022/04/14 08:10:53
MDN79
Jomama22
You're right, it's always about a balance.
It's a pity that 3080 FTW3 could easily reach 450 Wtt, but Ti cannot, with start of limiting at around 400. I understand it might be monitoring issue, and power draw is higher in real. But why then they don't fix it?
That's my point. Show us the truth or show nothing.
Btw, techpowerup tested 3080 Ti FTW3 and measured consumption with special hardware and they saw spikes till 500+ Wtts)))
And they also saw 450 Wt on stress test.
 
My exemplar is hot a bit, so I can go 1935/900 in any games w/o reaching limits, even in Metro or Quake II RTX. In non-hard games it is 2025/968-975.
2022/04/14 19:45:31
kithylin
I have tried searching through most of the forums and internet and I can't find anything so I'll ask here: Has there been any updated bios or XOC bios for the EVGA RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 with a higher power limit released anywhere? That's the single thing limiting performance on my 3070 Ti FTW3.
2022/04/14 20:42:39
slickwicked616
is the link for 3080ti ftw3 ultra to hybrid up to date?
2022/04/17 11:36:04
DaBogo
@EVGATech_LeeM Thanks for this post! I was not aware of the issue with the fast boot before flashing the bios.

Maybe someone will find this helpful:
I got my 3080ti ftw3 ultra from caseking germany right on release and never used „normal“ bios. Few days ago i was thinking out of nowhere (i believe i was more mad since i working so much overtime and had no free time for my build haha) „hey lets test normal bios“ since i was worry about fans life and that these always spinning.. i booted into windows, noted „update“ under card details in px1 so hit update button and that was end of the story… i had both bioses upgraded to the version ….74 like the new one from normal bios from july 2021. today i flashed these version from this thread back, always with fastboot off, csm off and so on…
The issue was really strange. and i need to tell i still have an issue with normal bios. the card usage is not like on the OC bios. I will open a thread for this one maybe someone can help with that one.

But dont forget

TURN OFF THE FASTBOOT IN YOUR BIOS!
2022/04/17 16:52:33
slickwicked616
none of these links to flash back my card from 3080 ftw 3 ultra hybrid back to stock work for me. ive done everything listed to the t. any help would be apprciated thanks
2022/04/17 23:04:47
MDN79
DaBogo
That's a nuance while you switching between bioses. Only second reboot of the machine gives you real switching. You can easily check it with GPU-Z. After first reboot you will see the same bios in the info section.
And of course you should update bios only after second reboot. Or even later)
 
slickwicked616
is the link for 3080ti ftw3 ultra to hybrid up to date?


They are initial bioses. The latest you can get only through X1 or if ask EBGA technicians.
Did you flash hybrid version into simple FTW3?
 
2022/04/19 16:50:30
QuadJunky
d333s
While I prefer the Nvidia reference designed cards, for my latest PC upgrade I purchased a rather disappointing 12G-P5-3955-KR video card. In trying to increase its performance to "average", I've run into the limit of the Power Target setting of 105%.
 
In response to a question about Precision X1's ability to configure slightly high settings, I was told it's a firmware limitation. It would require a "higher power limit " BIOS.
 
Looking on the download page and video cards forum, the only BIOS appears to address the limit is the: "EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS" thread. (Although, most posts in the thread reference the FTX and Hybrid cards.)
 
Is this the only "officially" released BIOS that can permit increasing the Power Target?




Bought the same card seen it in stock and impulse bought it(should have waited 2 weeks) and to my surprise 105% was the limit.  Any word on an actually bios with an increased limit?

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