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Jomama22

AHowes
So i have a recent 3090 FTW3 Ultra card.. Is their any reason to flash to a Hybrid Bios if i'm now using a EK front and back block?? Does it give a higher power limit or is it just a Name change in PX1?

There shouldn't be any difference between the bios' interms of performance. I would shy away from using the hybrid bios as more than likely, the fans may not operate correctly (different rpm range/count).

Yeah i'm not too worried about fans as i dont have any ;).. if theirs no difference then why bother.

Then slap a KP bios on there and have fun (but be safe lol)

Anyone else with an LHR 3080 struggling to get it going over 400w even with the 450w BIOS?
 
https://forums.evga.com/3080-FTW3-Ultra-not-going-over-400w-even-with-450w-bios-m3537242.aspx
 
I made this topic when I first got it but ended up thinking it was fine/I was doing something wrong.
 
Now with more knowledge and proper testing with Kombustor and Metro Enhanced Edition, I'm getting heavily power-limited the second anything gets near 400w. It's as if the card is ignoring the 450w BIOS and ignoring being told to use up to 118%.
 

 
Massively power-limited in Kombustor for example, I'm pegged at 400w and the curve above is set for 1.05v and 2160mhz. Something that runs in Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition because it draws around 370~380w max.
 

 
Frequency seen in Metro is 2145~2160mhz.
 
Frequency in Kombustor craters due to hitting power limit. If I run Kombustor with 2100mhz at say 1.0v, it holds 2100mhz no problem, but that's because the power draw comes down to 37x~39xw.
 
8 pin #3 seems underutilized and even the PCIe slot could be drawing more in the picture above where I'm pegged at 400w.
 
This forum seems to be littered with complaints about the 3080 FTW3 refusing to draw more power, but I haven't been able to find a single solution or EVGA confirming if there is a hardware issue/RMA is needed.
 
Only other thing I can think is the 450w LHR 3080 BIOS supplied on this forum is not working properly.
 

 
I flashed a link in this topic, and yes GPU-Z reports it should go to 450w and the slider in MSI afterburner claims it can now go to 118%, but mines is clearly still pegged at 400w.
 
@EVGATech_LeeM could you maybe confirm what BIOS file the LHR 3080FTW3 should be flashing for 450w, and also double-confirm it isn't buggy in regards to actually letting the card draw up to 450w? Thanks.

True story when I installed Precision X1 and let it run first time it took over and updated Bios on my EVGA GeForce RTX 3070Ti FTW3 was quite comforting to see and voila GPU Bios updated. 

Please launch an XOC Bios for 3090 Ti

andi0139
Please launch an XOC Bios for 3090 Ti

We’re waiting EVGA. We want at least the same power limit as the lower tier 3090.

Was wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing but I was wanting to flash the 3080 TI FTW3 bios even though I have the 3080 TI XC3.
It just seems a bit disappointing that the XC3 Hybrid bios is running the same power limit of 356W even after massively upgrading the cooling capabilities.
 
Even the ftw3 on air has a maximum of 450W.
 
Was thinking if there would be any problems with flashing the ftw3 bios on the xc3 card.

pwnage09
Was wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing but I was wanting to flash the 3080 TI FTW3 bios even though I have the 3080 TI XC3.
It just seems a bit disappointing that the XC3 Hybrid bios is running the same power limit of 356W even after massively upgrading the cooling capabilities.
 
Even the ftw3 on air has a maximum of 450W.
 
Was thinking if there would be any problems with flashing the ftw3 bios on the xc3 card.

The xc3 is a 2-8 pin card vs the 3-8 pins on the ftw3. You will actually have a lower power limit because of this as the current balancing will say the non-existent 8 pin is getting the same power as one of the actual pin. Was tried when the cards first came out.

You can flash other 2-8 pin cards bios' that have high power limits.

Jomama22

pwnage09
Was wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing but I was wanting to flash the 3080 TI FTW3 bios even though I have the 3080 TI XC3.
It just seems a bit disappointing that the XC3 Hybrid bios is running the same power limit of 356W even after massively upgrading the cooling capabilities.
 
Even the ftw3 on air has a maximum of 450W.
 
Was thinking if there would be any problems with flashing the ftw3 bios on the xc3 card.

The xc3 is a 2-8 pin card vs the 3-8 pins on the ftw3. You will actually have a lower power limit because of this as the current balancing will say the non-existent 8 pin is getting the same power as one of the actual pin. Was tried when the cards first came out.

You can flash other 2-8 pin cards bios' that have high power limits.

Hey thanks that was a really quick reply. There would not be any compatibility problems if I flash a different vendor's bios onto my EVGA card? I am just a bit new to messing around with bios's. I know that the RGB stuff in precision wouldn't work anymore but I don't really care about that. As long as the card is working

pwnage09

Jomama22

pwnage09
Was wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing but I was wanting to flash the 3080 TI FTW3 bios even though I have the 3080 TI XC3.
It just seems a bit disappointing that the XC3 Hybrid bios is running the same power limit of 356W even after massively upgrading the cooling capabilities.

Even the ftw3 on air has a maximum of 450W.

Was thinking if there would be any problems with flashing the ftw3 bios on the xc3 card.

The xc3 is a 2-8 pin card vs the 3-8 pins on the ftw3. You will actually have a lower power limit because of this as the current balancing will say the non-existent 8 pin is getting the same power as one of the actual pin. Was tried when the cards first came out.

You can flash other 2-8 pin cards bios' that have high power limits.

Hey thanks that was a really quick reply. There would not be any compatibility problems if I flash a different vendor's bios onto my EVGA card? I am just a bit new to messing around with bios's. I know that the RGB stuff in precision wouldn't work anymore but I don't really care about that. As long as the card is working

Only concern is the fans. Possible one may not operate and/or they do not have the same rpm range (fans may run slower).

Also, it is possible an HDMI/dp port may not work as well.

Audioboxer
Anyone else with an LHR 3080 struggling to get it going over 400w even with the 450w BIOS?

I see that the VC is underloaded. Maybe that is one of the reason.
And yeah, 1080p loads tha card significantly less than 1440p, for example. So try to check that on 2k, I assure you will see much more power drawn. And do not froget to switch off any FPS cap.
My problem still is that VC reveals limiting far earlier then 450 Vtt. In Metro Exodus enhanced power limit takes place at already 400 Vtts.
 

Jomama22
Only concern is the fans. Possible one may not operate and/or they do not have the same rpm range (fans may run slower).

Also, it is possible an HDMI/dp port may not work as well.

I tried 1000 Vtt bios from HOF, fans and ports are healthy on 3080 Ti FTW3U, but monitoring shows strange numbers. For example, on two PCI-E power plugs it reports about 10.00 Volts, not 12. In fact it is 12, I checked that with voltmeter.
And also sad thing is to see strong power disbalance between power plugs. 3rd one tells about 50-60 Vtts, when 2 othes  are highly loaded.
 
I would ask EVGA engs again to fix power consumption on3080 tis.