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2020/06/03 00:09:00 (permalink)
CPU seems to go  OK.

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/03 00:11:14 (permalink)
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/03 00:11:58 (permalink)
nah...5.5
Just found another screenshot.
Got a 3018 score as well.
Can't get them for love or money over here.
Got this one from the UK overclockers
post edited by spit051261 - 2020/06/03 00:20:35

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/03 00:13:10 (permalink)


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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/03 10:31:15 (permalink)
nice CPU ... hard to find anywhere right now
 
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/03 11:27:14 (permalink)
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nice CPU ... hard to find anywhere right now
 
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/03 13:25:24 (permalink)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk

They have just had Apex XII in ( 8 in stock ).
Might have to wait for 10900k but if you ask to be informed by email when they arrive, you'll know straight away .
It's a good site with good tracking .
post edited by spit051261 - 2020/06/03 13:40:04

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/03 17:55:10 (permalink)
What kind of cooling?  Benchmarking or everyday setup?  Ram?
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/03 18:05:53 (permalink)
Benchmarking
G skill 4266 2x8gb @ 4600 16 16 16 30
MSI ACE
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/04 20:50:06 (permalink)
 
Wow that's like a $1,700 cooler. Nice. Extreme rig.
 

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/05 07:41:30 (permalink)
Note, that's using 1.42v -- That's not a daily driver voltage. The i9 10900K seems to be pretty close across the board. I have not seen anything where people were getting crazy frequencies past 5.3GHz. This version seems to have really high quality materials all around and not much varies between the CPU as much as the motherboard you choose to put it in. Every brand has default settings to push the CPU a little harder, some of them will crank it up past 1.55v in auto voltage to get you an all core speed of 5.1GHz+ and that's not really needed. 
 
This just came out... I was able to get a decent amount for my i9 9900KS, so I grabbed a i9 10900K. It's a little bit quicker for sure. BUT! None of my RAM kits work with this new Gigabyte Z490 Master motherboard I have. lol... If I enable XMP, it shuts off my Ethernet adapter. So... that's a thing I gotta figure out.

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/05 08:25:53 (permalink)
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Note, that's using 1.42v -- That's not a daily driver voltage. The i9 10900K seems to be pretty close across the board. I have not seen anything where people were getting crazy frequencies past 5.3GHz. This version seems to have really high quality materials all around and not much varies between the CPU as much as the motherboard you choose to put it in. Every brand has default settings to push the CPU a little harder, some of them will crank it up past 1.55v in auto voltage to get you an all core speed of 5.1GHz+ and that's not really needed. 
 
This just came out... I was able to get a decent amount for my i9 9900KS, so I grabbed a i9 10900K. It's a little bit quicker for sure. BUT! None of my RAM kits work with this new Gigabyte Z490 Master motherboard I have. lol... If I enable XMP, it shuts off my Ethernet adapter. So... that's a thing I gotta figure out.




XMP thing could be a bios issue?
 
From what initial reviews said, the practical limits on the 10900K seemed to be about 5.3ghz all core and 300W, with watercooling or big AIO.
 
I see that the 10900K has has per-core selectable hyperthreading, I wonder if it makes sense to disable HT on two or four cores and crank those up to 5.4 or 5.5 Ghz, then run the remainder at 5.1 or 5.0 Ghz with HT.  
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/05 14:18:53 (permalink)
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Note, that's using 1.42v -- That's not a daily driver voltage.

5.5Mhz on all cores is also not a daily either lol.
It was only for running R15
post edited by spit051261 - 2020/06/05 14:24:58

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/05 14:50:46 (permalink)
How are the temps compared to say a 9900K? It's hard to find a review that provides these comparisons anymore.
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/05 15:25:49 (permalink)
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How are the temps compared to say a 9900K? It's hard to find a review that provides these comparisons anymore.




Slightly better when considering core count and power consumption, which is proportionally higher.
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/05 15:40:45 (permalink)
Temps are much better than 9900k and better than 9900ks.
All in all , seems like a good chip.
As far As IMC goes , not sure.
I'm hoping it's the board cutting my RAM speed ( from OC 4600 to 4533).can't hit 4600 on this board.
I'll know next week when I change from MSI ACE to Apex XII
post edited by spit051261 - 2020/06/05 15:46:38

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/06 12:04:13 (permalink)
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/06 16:06:47 (permalink)
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Temps are much better than 9900k and better than 9900ks.
All in all , seems like a good chip.
As far As IMC goes , not sure.
I'm hoping it's the board cutting my RAM speed ( from OC 4600 to 4533).can't hit 4600 on this board.
I'll know next week when I change from MSI ACE to Apex XII



I just moved over to the ACE, returned my Gigabyte Z490 Master today cause the memory on that board disables the LAN even if you adjust the memory multiplier... So far it's a welcome upgrade and works with my 4000MHz kit. Have not tried my 4266MHz kit since they actually show it doesn't support all 4 modules on the QVL list. I have not tried Asus yet, unfortunately Microcenter doesn't carry any of the Maximus line-up or I would have tried that one.
 
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How are the temps compared to say a 9900K? It's hard to find a review that provides these comparisons anymore.



It's hard to compare between CPU's because motherboard manufactures do not have a standard default setting. My Gigabyte Z490 Master was showing temps from 22C at idle and around 45-50C during gaming. I also couldn't enable XMP, so memory always ran at 2133MHz which would also help temps. My i9 9900KS was running at 25C idle and 55-60C gaming, no overclocks. Both were under pretty similar cooling sets, except the i9 9900KS had a monoblock instead of a CPU block and that definitely helped temps a little more. It feels like temps are easier to maintain with the i9 10900K but now I have a MSI MEG Z490 ACE and it runs hotter. My base clock speeds went from 4.9GHz to 5.1GHz going from the Gigabyte to MSI board. I also have XMP enabled and it's actually working on the MSI board... so there are multiple things contributing to heat. So far my idle is at 30C... so it's closer to my i9 9900KS. I'm doing a fresh install and have to re-download all of my games... so I will have to weigh in after this later... but I did notice a jump in performance in Call of Duty: Warzone on the Gigabyte board, I assume i'll notice even more with this new board.

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/06 17:13:39 (permalink)
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Temps are much better than 9900k and better than 9900ks.
All in all , seems like a good chip.
As far As IMC goes , not sure.
I'm hoping it's the board cutting my RAM speed ( from OC 4600 to 4533).can't hit 4600 on this board.
I'll know next week when I change from MSI ACE to Apex XII



I just moved over to the ACE, returned my Gigabyte Z490 Master today cause the memory on that board disables the LAN even if you adjust the memory multiplier... So far it's a welcome upgrade and works with my 4000MHz kit. Have not tried my 4266MHz kit since they actually show it doesn't support all 4 modules on the QVL list. I have not tried Asus yet, unfortunately Microcenter doesn't carry any of the Maximus line-up or I would have tried that one.
 
chrisdglong
How are the temps compared to say a 9900K? It's hard to find a review that provides these comparisons anymore.



It's hard to compare between CPU's because motherboard manufactures do not have a standard default setting. My Gigabyte Z490 Master was showing temps from 22C at idle and around 45-50C during gaming. I also couldn't enable XMP, so memory always ran at 2133MHz which would also help temps. My i9 9900KS was running at 25C idle and 55-60C gaming, no overclocks. Both were under pretty similar cooling sets, except the i9 9900KS had a monoblock instead of a CPU block and that definitely helped temps a little more. It feels like temps are easier to maintain with the i9 10900K but now I have a MSI MEG Z490 ACE and it runs hotter. My base clock speeds went from 4.9GHz to 5.1GHz going from the Gigabyte to MSI board. I also have XMP enabled and it's actually working on the MSI board... so there are multiple things contributing to heat. So far my idle is at 30C... so it's closer to my i9 9900KS. I'm doing a fresh install and have to re-download all of my games... so I will have to weigh in after this later... but I did notice a jump in performance in Call of Duty: Warzone on the Gigabyte board, I assume i'll notice even more with this new board.


So, no crazy jumps in temps? The only thing that I like to hear is that there is at least nothing out of the ordinary when it comes to temps, it sounds like that's the case. I mean, we could easily see a difference (I know, these are GPU's, but to make a point) between pretty much every GPU and Fermi. Fermi was a hot GPU. It sounds like you guys might be noticing slightly better temps. Pretty much ANY information on temps is better than nothing.
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/06 17:24:41 (permalink)
Let's put it this way, I don't think your temps will be worse than the k and most probably better as I have found.

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/06 19:13:48 (permalink)
After a hour gaming session on the MEG ACE, the i9 10900K got up to 69C max temp according to MSI Afterburner. Looks like the default voltages are pretty hard on the CPU with it getting this hot. I think this is going to require some static voltage to reduce temps.

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/06 19:33:03 (permalink)
This i9 10900K just wrecked my i9 9900KS best score on Time Spy:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/47541391?
 
I did not expect that... I have not even overclocked this i9 10900K, that was just pushing the video card.
 

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/06 20:09:43 (permalink)
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This i9 10900K just wrecked my i9 9900KS best score on Time Spy:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/47541391?
 
I did not expect that... I have not even overclocked this i9 10900K, that was just pushing the video card.
 

My figures went from 2277 on i9 9900ks to 3018 on i9 10900k cinebench R15.

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/07 19:25:56 (permalink)
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This i9 10900K just wrecked my i9 9900KS best score on Time Spy:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/47541391?
 
I did not expect that... I have not even overclocked this i9 10900K, that was just pushing the video card.
 




Really nice!  Doesn't the MSI board have a stock setting with an all core turbo/voltage/power limit higher than the CPU's stock, technically an overclock?  On my MSI board it's called "enhanced turbo", disabling it gives true stock CPU settings.
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/20 16:26:54 (permalink)
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This i9 10900K just wrecked my i9 9900KS best score on Time Spy:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/47541391?
 
I did not expect that... I have not even overclocked this i9 10900K, that was just pushing the video card.
 




Really nice!  Doesn't the MSI board have a stock setting with an all core turbo/voltage/power limit higher than the CPU's stock, technically an overclock?  On my MSI board it's called "enhanced turbo", disabling it gives true stock CPU settings.




I removed those settings and it dropped performance a little bit. It allowed me to boot with my 4266MHz kit, but I couldn't get it to run most applications with XMP enabled so I had to go back to my 4000MHz CL18 kit which seems to work just fine. The overclocking features work well with that stuff enabled, so i'm not sure if i'll keep it off. For now I don't really see a need to push the processor, so i'm defaulting on letting the CPU control the speed and i'll get the most life out of it that way. I have a feeling it's going to be a rare processor. 

Main PC | Secondary PC
Intel i9 10900K | Intel i7 9700K

MSI MEG Z490 ACE | Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Master
NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti | NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super
32GB G.Skill Trident Z Royal 4000MHz CL18 | 32GB G.Skill Triden Z RGB 4266MHz CL17
EVGA P2 1000 | Seasonic X-1250
Samsung EVO 970 1TB and Crucial P5 1TB | Intel 760p 1TB and Crucial MX100 512GB
Cougar Vortex CF-V12HPB x9 | Cougar Vortex CF-V12SPB-RGB x5
 
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/22 03:46:11 (permalink)
Just got up to 3054
5.5 on the chip

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/24 16:21:20 (permalink)
Excellent article.
I thought the aqua had 4 Dim slots though?

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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/26 10:58:49 (permalink)
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Excellent article.
I thought the aqua had 4 Dim slots though?

Retail board does, Splave's LN2 version has 2.
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Re: i9 10900k 2020/06/26 17:08:00 (permalink)
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Excellent article.
I thought the aqua had 4 Dim slots though?

Retail board does, Splave's LN2 version has 2.

That must be one of the 99 specials they made .
What's up with them , don't they trust us with 2 dim slots and force us to use 4 which is not as good ?

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