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2019/10/25 01:39:40 (permalink)
I had a co-worker asked me about what computer to buy.
He has a 10 year old computer that he build but did not follow the new tech since then.
I asked him what he used the computer for and he told me email and surfing the net and not games or editing video and such (or watching movies).
I told him to buy a $300 to $400 (maybe $500) computer from like Cyber Power with 16 GB ram (probably overkill) and a SSD drive.
At least you get a guaranty of some kind and it would be cheaper than you build yourself.
Was I wrong with this advice?


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    Re: giving people advice 2019/10/25 01:54:15 (permalink)
    Sounds fine. You might also suggest he get a laptop if he only does email and web surfing. 

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    Re: giving people advice 2019/10/25 03:40:50 (permalink)
    Sounds like good advice but I normally give people a bit of headroom and would say more like a $500-600 system unless a tight budget is needed. Often times people with an old system do not realize the power of a new system and the entertainment options you now have with them. His old system could have been using WiFi and only the N bandwidth and take like a minute to load a Netflix video which might not have hit HD. Same problem could have happened with Youtube. I feel it's best to recommend something that you feel would be able to handle any entertainment options they want and that with a good video card added could handle almost any game.
     
    That said a $400 system should still fit the needs pretty well and someone who spends $300 would know they probably are buying a budget computer.

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    Re: giving people advice 2019/10/25 05:37:40 (permalink)
    10 yr old PC ... probably time for New Monitor, KB, mouse .... unless they were updated. 
     
    At least they need to make sure their current monitor has an input that is supported by a new PC
     
    iGPU type PC would be "good enough" ... a 1650 - 1660 Ti would be even better
     
    basic "Big Box" store systems are good "entry point PC" .... many times Costco & Sam's Club will give an extra year on the Mfg warranty
     
     

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    Re: giving people advice 2019/10/25 08:56:19 (permalink)
    I would have honestly just told him to go buy an iPad. If he doesn't do anything like games or even video an iPad would have been ideal. You can get last years 9.7in base model iPad for about $279 which has the exact same processor as this years 10.2in model or you could just opt for the current 10.2in model for $329 if he wants a slightly bigger screen. 
     
    I'm saying this because if he doesn't do anything real intensive on his PC an iPad will let him surf the web, email etc....while he's sitting on the couch in the living room. And if he did want to game it just so happens that iPad has a metric $#it ton of games available for it and it's also great for watching Netflix or Amazon Prime. 

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    Re: giving people advice 2019/10/25 13:20:06 (permalink)
    Just go with a tablet if they just be using it for simple tasks and he/she can always turn it into a laptop (somewhat) with the keyboard added to it.

    I personally like the iPads for their simplicity.

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    Re: giving people advice 2019/10/26 00:01:52 (permalink)
    He does know about the new stuff does not want to play movies and such, but just wants to go cheap desktop, regular keyboard, mouse and a 27" screen.
    Don't care about bells and whistles.


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    Re: giving people advice 2019/10/30 12:59:59 (permalink)
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    He does know about the new stuff does not want to play movies and such, but just wants to go cheap desktop, regular keyboard, mouse and a 27" screen.
    Don't care about bells and whistles.



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    Sounds like the set-up I built for my wife a little over a year ago:
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    Asus H370-F
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    I'd build something like that... if you can't find a decent deal on a i3, maybe the i5 9400. If you go with AMD, the Ryzen 3 3200G or Ryzen 5 3400G would be the options i'd look into. But yeah, i'd say you probably went the right way with your original suggestion.

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    Re: giving people advice 2019/10/31 06:39:52 (permalink)
    ^not a bad build. I like it. But yeah for a basic build the original suggestion wasn't a bad idea at all.

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    Re: giving people advice 2019/11/01 17:59:17 (permalink)
    See, thing I also told him that I could not build a system at that low price because the system intergraters  (if everything was new) get get better prices because of volume sales plus the  guaranty if something fails.
    I tried and it cost me more than $400 with parts I had laying around.
    Parts that were new:
    Ryzen 5 2600X.
    ASRock B450M Steel Legend MB.
    Samsung 1TB V-NAND SSD.
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x4 16 GB 2400 Mhz ram and a Cooler Master case ($66).
    Left over parts:
    HP 27" monitor.
    RGB keyboard.
    Generic mouse.
    OWL external blu-ray burner (LG, usb).
    2TB WD hard drive.
    EVGA 1080 Hybrid video card.
     
    I guess I can't go too cheap.
     


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    Re: giving people advice 2019/11/03 10:54:24 (permalink)
    & You'll be Tech Support for Life if you build it

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    Re: giving people advice 2019/11/04 13:15:23 (permalink)
    jfw06013
    I had a co-worker asked me about what computer to buy.
    He has a 10 year old computer that he build but did not follow the new tech since then.
    I asked him what he used the computer for and he told me email and surfing the net and not games or editing video and such (or watching movies).
    I told him to buy a $300 to $400 (maybe $500) computer from like Cyber Power with 16 GB ram (probably overkill) and a SSD drive.
    At least you get a guaranty of some kind and it would be cheaper than you build yourself.
    Was I wrong with this advice?




    Keep an eye on https://slickdeals.net/ front page or you can do saved searches.  Plenty of nice laptops around $500 and people will give commentary if they are any good.  You can get a 27" screen on a deal for about $100 or so and a factory refurb Dell desktop for about $400, imho that's tough to beat.
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