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2013/07/22 10:41:22 (permalink)
Whats the easiest cars and hardest cars you guys have ever changed the oil on. For me the easiest is the pt cruiser and hardest is either a volvo wagon or a ford taurus with the the oil filer up against the starter.

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/22 10:44:35 (permalink)
    There was a Volkswagen model that gave me a heck of a time once but I can't remember the model. 

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/24 13:07:12 (permalink)
    My 1996 Honda Civic was bleh for an oil change.  If you did it yourself, you took the front driver tire off to get to the oil pan bolt since it was low to the ground and the oil filter liked to drip on you when you pulled it out to replace it.  It was also not visible from top or bottom, so you had to screw it in blind and go slow or pray it didnt crossthread.
     
    In the grand scheme of things, probably not too bad, but annoying.
     
    I havent personally done an oil change on my new Sentra yet, so IDK on that one.
     
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/24 13:17:04 (permalink)
    Easiest: My Jeep Wrangler. The only thing that requires me to crawl underneath is to pull the oil drain bolt. But since it is so high from the factory, I don't need to jack it up at all. Oil filter and fill are on top of the engine.
     
    Hardest: My previous car, the Mazdaspeed 3. It was so low I had to jack it way up to even get under it. Then I had to remove the undertray. Then I could drain the oil. But then I had to use an allen wrench to open the oil filter canister bleeder, then a special tool to unscrew the oil filter canister to take the cartridge out, thereby getting oil all over me. Replace cartridge, replace canister, replace bleeder, fill with 5.5L of oil, make sure its not leaking...THEN replace undertray and lower.
     
    Actually I take that back, most difficult is my wifes 2007 Jetta 2.5L. It has all the same steps as the Mazdaspeed 3, except all the bolts are Torx, and the canister bleeder is a special plastic zirc fitting.
     
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/24 14:01:30 (permalink)
    My '70 VW Bus was by far the easiest, just backed it up on the little ramps and the plug was right at the bottom... oil filter was a foot away looking at me.
     
    My uncle's Sebring, forget the year, had to remove the driver's side tire to get to the battery, and remove the battery to get to the filter...

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 05:15:26 (permalink)

     
    why can't all cars be like this?
     
    also Fiius your sentra isn't too bad except for the skid plate in the way of the oil filter which is on the side of the engine towards the front. has some cheap plastic clips along with some easily breakable bolts

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 07:32:05 (permalink)
    If memory serves, wasn't the early gen RX7's filter on the top of the motor, so you could change it by popping the hood?
     
    Easiest I have done though, was helping an old neighbor change a filter on a Falcon Chassis Ranchero (64 iirc) with a straight six.  I had about 18 inches between the block and the shock tower.  Nothing in the way from the bottom, if you have long arms you could do it from under the hood.
     
    I haven't had too many tough ones to do.
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 07:54:17 (permalink)
    Easiest: anything you can use a lift on.
    Most time consuming: Porche. They have some crazy routine to do on an oil change. They have to sit level for so long and every time you drop a few oz into the motor, you have to wait to check the dipstick. Seen it done at a dealer.
    Most difficult that i've done: 4 cylinder Fusion/Milan. Gotta take 2 plastic covers off (or loose the twist off one by the drain plug on the road), and the filter is an element kind. The plastic cap for the element can be difficult to get a grip on.
     
    OP: I never have a problem changing the filter on my wife's Taurus 3.0L (not DOHC). I can reach from the top and change it without lifting it. The starter isn't in the way, it just gets covered in every oil change. Just think of it as making it easier to replace the starter because the bolts aren't rusty :P

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 09:50:27 (permalink)
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    Easiest: anything you can use a lift on.
    Most time consuming: Porche. They have some crazy routine to do on an oil change. They have to sit level for so long and every time you drop a few oz into the motor, you have to wait to check the dipstick. Seen it done at a dealer.
    Most difficult that i've done: 4 cylinder Fusion/Milan. Gotta take 2 plastic covers off (or loose the twist off one by the drain plug on the road), and the filter is an element kind. The plastic cap for the element can be difficult to get a grip on.

    OP: I never have a problem changing the filter on my wife's Taurus 3.0L (not DOHC). I can reach from the top and change it without lifting it. The starter isn't in the way, it just gets covered in every oil change. Just think of it as making it easier to replace the starter because the bolts aren't rusty :P

     
    2.3l Fusion/Milan do suck because of the filter, and the 3.0l OHV and DOHC in the Taurus is easy.
     
    Hardest that I can remember is a Ford GT. It has big under body panels, then once they are out it takes a while to drain the oil. Then on the refill it has a dry sump oil system and you have to prime the system before start up to avoid damage.


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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 15:13:56 (permalink)
    My STI.
     
    It not so much hard. You will always make a mess if you don't do it spot on. You have to have the car on jack-stands to do it too lol.
     
    Since the filter and the plug is at the very bottom of the motor.
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 18:56:40 (permalink)
    Pre-80's Ford & Chevy trucks!

    Anything thats FWD goes to the local Lube....


     
     
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 19:41:23 (permalink)
    Easiest would have probably been any old car or truck. My '08 Saturn Astra is a cakewalk to change the oil in, use a T-40 socket (star shaped) to remove the plug on the bottom of the oil pan which is flat. Oil filter is on top of the engine and easy to get to, has an extension on the cap for a 25mm socket.
     
    Hardest has got to be 3.0L Ford Taurus. They put the filter on at a 45* angle on the front of the engine. Stupid engineering decision just like everything else on those cars.

     
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 20:21:51 (permalink)
    1995 BMW M3 is by far the easiest. 

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/25 21:56:18 (permalink)
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    If memory serves, wasn't the early gen RX7's filter on the top of the motor, so you could change it by popping the hood?

    Easiest I have done though, was helping an old neighbor change a filter on a Falcon Chassis Ranchero (64 iirc) with a straight six.  I had about 18 inches between the block and the shock tower.  Nothing in the way from the bottom, if you have long arms you could do it from under the hood.

    I haven't had too many tough ones to do.

    2nd gen Rx7 's filter was under the hood, easy to change and I could just reach the drain plug without
    jacking it up. 1st gen was probably the same, I don't think the engine changed much.
     
    Hardest is my current car, 06 Miata. Have to jack up the front quite a bit (got Rhino Ramps since last oil change so that should make it a little easier), put on a Fumoto valve (http://www.qwikvalve.com/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=search-fumoto) to drain oil so that's not too bad but you have to take off a plate to get to the filter which is up in a hole and about impossible to get out without spilling oil all over your arm and the frame.
     
    I'd have it done but don't want to pay shop prices and I don't trust the quick lube places. 

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 04:23:39 (permalink)
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    2.3l Fusion/Milan do suck because of the filter, and the 3.0l OHV and DOHC in the Taurus is easy.

    Hardest that I can remember is a Ford GT. It has big under body panels, then once they are out it takes a while to drain the oil. Then on the refill it has a dry sump oil system and you have to prime the system before start up to avoid damage.


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    maybe i shouldn't buy a Ford GT if i win the lottery.. lol nevermind. I will if I win the lottery :D

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 05:16:48 (permalink)
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 05:39:34 (permalink)
    Easiest would be my '06 Ram I had, thing sat high enough I didn't need to jack it up, I could roll under it on my creeper, and the filter and pan bolt were right there.
     
    Hardest, I haven't done it my self, but would be my new Charger, I've watched the amount of skid plates and other stuff they have to take off to get to it! I'll pay the little extra...plus warrantee and all...LOL

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 06:16:23 (permalink)
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    Easiest would be my '06 Ram I had, thing sat high enough I didn't need to jack it up, I could roll under it on my creeper, and the filter and pan bolt were right there.

    Hardest, I haven't done it my self, but would be my new Charger, I've watched the amount of skid plates and other stuff they have to take off to get to it! I'll pay the little extra...plus warrantee and all...LOL

    Used to be the same way, but found that the best warranty is the one where I know what it is that's actually in my engine.


      


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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 06:26:00 (permalink)
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    Easiest would be my '06 Ram I had, thing sat high enough I didn't need to jack it up, I could roll under it on my creeper, and the filter and pan bolt were right there.

    Hardest, I haven't done it my self, but would be my new Charger, I've watched the amount of skid plates and other stuff they have to take off to get to it! I'll pay the little extra...plus warrantee and all...LOL

    Used to be the same way, but found that the best warranty is the one where I know what it is that's actually in my engine.


    That is true, I was referring more the the factory warranty, its still in effect, and in that case I don't want to give Dodge any reason to deny the claim if say my engine blew on me, I don't want them to be able to come back and say "Well...you didn't have your car serviced by a trained technician.." or anything.  I actually enjoy doing stuff like that my self.

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 07:13:57 (permalink)
    Mercedes Benz vehicles have a filter "element" much like Diesel trucks. By far the hardest oil change I've done, now I just make the dealer do it for $90.00

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 07:35:39 (permalink)
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    Easiest would be my '06 Ram I had, thing sat high enough I didn't need to jack it up, I could roll under it on my creeper, and the filter and pan bolt were right there.

    Hardest, I haven't done it my self, but would be my new Charger, I've watched the amount of skid plates and other stuff they have to take off to get to it! I'll pay the little extra...plus warrantee and all...LOL

    Used to be the same way, but found that the best warranty is the one where I know what it is that's actually in my engine.


    That is true, I was referring more the the factory warranty, its still in effect, and in that case I don't want to give Dodge any reason to deny the claim if say my engine blew on me, I don't want them to be able to come back and say "Well...you didn't have your car serviced by a trained technician.." or anything.  I actually enjoy doing stuff like that my self.

     
    In my experience, if you keep all your oil receipts they're not going to deny you warranty work.

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 09:59:38 (permalink)
    Easiest would be 2004 Rav 4
     
    Hardest,2006 Audi A8 4.2 

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 10:03:45 (permalink)
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    There was a Volkswagen model that gave me a heck of a time once but I can't remember the model. 

     
    Was is a VW Touareg? 

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 14:20:50 (permalink)
    For me:
    Small block chevy 350s in just about any vehicle (Camaro,Pickup,Suburban) are the easiest.
     
    The worst or hardest is a tie between the Lexus RX7 or whatever the suv was called (had to where a burn sleeve because the filter was under the exhaust manifold and could only be accessed from the top by reaching uder the manifold, which meant placing your forearm on the manifold) or the VW that required removing a 15 bolt skid plate that was attahced with a (usually stripped out) set of odd sized Torx screws. Those awful vehicles I encountered  while working at an oil change shop in high school, when these cars would come in after being on the freeway for hours with the A/C running making them really hot. And of course everyone is always in a hurry so no waiting for the cars to cool down.
     
    Side story: first day on that job they had the old analog style oil guns that had two sets of numbers, one for quarts the other for gallons. I thought that a full revolution was one quart, but it was actually four quarts. So I put what I thought was four quarts in a honda civic. As I saw the car returning to our shop fogging the WHOLE street with blue smoke I discovered I put 16 quarts in his car. Lol
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 14:32:07 (permalink)
    Our old grain truck by far. Put an oil filter relocation kit on it and one of the nozzels on the oil pan. 
     
    The truck was tall enough that you could set a 5 gallon bucket under it. Bucket under oil pan, turn nozzel on, reach over to the side and unscrew the oil filter, screw a new one on, wait for the oil to drain close nozzel, and there was enough room in the engine bay that you could take a gallon jug right next to the valve cover and pour it in. Height was just right to rest your arms on the fender while pouring.
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 21:11:45 (permalink)
    I changed the oil from many cars. But the hardest ever for me is any car that requires you to take the skid plates off to reach the filter as well as filters so I high up in cramped engines. O ya I also hate it when the filter is so hard to take of because of the pressure. I recommend those who change their own oil to use filters with grip on them because it really I mean really comes in handy. A thing that always helps me is to use soccer goalie gloves because they have that rubber grip on them.


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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 23:18:41 (permalink)
    i've never had to change the oil on my car, partially cause its cheaper for me to go to jiffy lube to have it done that it is to buy the stuff and do it myself haha.

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/26 23:31:43 (permalink)
    Easiest road vehicle was a 2008 Tacoma, oil filter is on the top of the engine and did not require a lift to drain. Easiest thing with an engine was my buddies Jet Ski's, dirt bike, or any other 2 stroke 
     
    I have worked on lots of cars that were horrible and a few that were easy. 

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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/27 01:16:29 (permalink)
    Ya, what Moose said.

    I remember when I first started working on the family truck, think I was 12-13 yrs old, ya could get a case of oil and filter and air filter for $15-20


     
     
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    Re:easiest and hardest car to change oil on 2013/07/27 01:35:01 (permalink)
    3rd gen eclipses 00-05 were pretty easy to change.

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