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2014/07/31 11:48:20 (permalink)
I will be working on a waterblock for the Stinger board.  I have no pics, or anything at the moment.  I have a few other projects going on at the same time, but hang in there... it will materialize.  Feel free to post if your interested.  I should have some pics or CAD designs in as early as a week...I hope.  It all depends on how quickly the board arrives. 
 
Update:
So here we have the board.  I couldn't believe how small this board is until I had it in front of me.

More to follow.
 
UPDATE:
Completed block, mounted:

 
 Shown with an optional Vanity plate:

 
post edited by nateman_doo - 2015/05/05 07:04:45

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    Drerex
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/04 07:38:16 (permalink)
    I might be interested Nate!  I have a project (Ice Bolt) that I am working on that will have the Z97 stinger in it.  What cad software are you using?  
     
    Hey, I have the exact same calipers.
     
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/04 21:34:02 (permalink)
    Pro-Engineer Wildfire.  Harbor Frieght calipers ftw ;) 
     
    So far its going really well.  I have all the copper parts already drafted.  about 40% of the overall drafting done.

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 05:15:04 (permalink)
    Awesome!  Look forward to seeing the models.  Have been looking for a full coverage wb for the stinger but couldn't find any.  Autodesk Inventor Pro 2015 here.  Good thing is that Pro-Eng Wildfire excepts step files like Solidworks.  Got some good step files of PC components if you ever need any.  


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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 11:02:50 (permalink)
    So far we are looking at 3 copper chunks, lots of O-rings, bolts, and 2 more layers.  A bit challenging, but not impossible.  The heights aren't set right in the CAD, just X & Y. 
     

     

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 11:27:05 (permalink)
    Just a thought- what about a monoblock solution that covers the CPU also in a single block with one inlet and outlet?

    Also, yeah I was pretty surprised myself how small a m-ITX board is.
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 14:39:48 (permalink)
    That is what your looking at.  Those are the copper blocks that will make contact with the various chips.  I am still trying to design the sandwich so to speak. 
    post edited by nateman_doo - 2014/08/05 14:50:40

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 17:28:56 (permalink)
    Soon as I read first post I was wondering the same thing.  Why not do full covered block.
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 18:28:24 (permalink)
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    Soon as I read first post I was wondering the same thing.  Why not do full covered block.


     
    Since you guys have EKWB doing the Hydros now, I am surprised there not doing the full coverage these days.  Doesn't matter anymore because we have Nate!! :)
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 19:01:21 (permalink)
    nateman_doo
    That is what your looking at.  Those are the copper blocks that will make contact with the various chips.  I am still trying to design the sandwich so to speak. 




    The sandwich was what misled me, I did see the CPU block part. Really interested to see how this works out. I would love to do a fully modded Hadron build with the z97 Stinger.
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 19:25:28 (permalink)
    I'm in!
     
    Just picked up a Stinger this past weekend. 
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 20:44:26 (permalink)
    Glad to hear!  Welcome to the forums! 

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 20:48:42 (permalink)
    I just had an epiphany just now (about the thickness of the "sandwich").  More on that in the morning...what kind of cases do you guys plan to put this board in?  Does the case have enough room?  Anyone have a picture of their board already in its case? 
     

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 20:48:54 (permalink)
    Thanks!
     
    I was actually debating the Asus Impact for it's full cover water block offerings.  Glad I went with the EVGA though. 
    I'm blown away by the quality of the hardware. Software... eh, it will come around I'm sure. 
     
    I'm currently running EK blocks on the CPU / GPU. Excited to see where this thread goes. 
     
    How are you planning to manufacture this piece? 
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 20:51:23 (permalink)
    ryanallan
     
    How are you planning to manufacture this piece? 


    on my home made CNC machine.  see here:
    http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2145835#2145835
     
     

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 21:00:10 (permalink)
    wow...  very impressive.
    I would agree with the other above in that a full cover block would be the way to go. 
    You've no doubt seen the EK version for the Impact:
    Water looks to flow over both the CPU and chip-set. 

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/05 21:05:57 (permalink)
    I'm guessing most guys running a ITX board are in smaller cases. 
    The Bitfenix Prodigy probably being the most popular for ITX builds. 
    This is V1 with the motherboard mounted flat:

     
    This is V2 with the motherboard mounted vertical:

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/06 06:05:14 (permalink)
    Mine is still in build process but here it is.  Nothing will be in front of the board.
     



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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/06 06:53:45 (permalink)
    ok, so the sky is the limit with board thickness.  In order to keep the costs down, I want to use more Delrin then copper.  Some parts will get narrow, so I have to make the block thicker to accommodate more flow.  This is a complicated block with 5 individual parts all fit like a glove with various heights.  Definatly my most complicated block so far, but as far as raw materials go it won't be that bad since I don't need large slabs of copper.  Still brainstorming & drafting the sandwich at the moment.
     
    Btw drerex, my 4 year old was in hysterics watching that cat in your sig.

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/06 13:04:52 (permalink)
    So here is a rough sketch of the saddle plate, or sandwich, or sammitch, whatever you want to call it.. 

     
    Yea, it looks kind of busy, but the liquid goes in the top hole (that will be different the next time you see it) then down across the CPU block, up and over to the top of the Vreg, down into the Vreg and out the lower section, and then down into the north bridge? South bridge? the southern north bridge?  Then back out of the block. 

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/07 07:44:30 (permalink)
    So here is the first paper prototype of the blocks together:

     
    And with the inlet locations:

     
    There are some other things I have to take into consideration still, but that is basically what it is going to look like.

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/07 14:17:29 (permalink)
    nateman_doo
    So here is the first paper prototype of the blocks together:

     
    And with the inlet locations:

     
    There are some other things I have to take into consideration still, but that is basically what it is going to look like.


    Very Cool, makes me want to build one.
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/07 16:35:30 (permalink)
    Oooo! nice!


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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/07 18:59:54 (permalink)
    ryanallan
    I'm guessing most guys running a ITX board are in smaller cases. 
    The Bitfenix Prodigy probably being the most popular for ITX builds. 
    This is V1 with the motherboard mounted flat:

     
    This is V2 with the motherboard mounted vertical:



    V1 is the regular prodigy - its mitx.
    V2 is the prodigy m - its matx(note the 2x gpu).
     
     
    Very cool looking stuff there nate.
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/07 19:15:07 (permalink)
    Thanks.  I have some clear polycarbonate that i will try as a prototype.  (think lexan-not acrylic) 

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/08 03:54:48 (permalink)
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    V1 is the regular prodigy - its mitx.
    V2 is the prodigy m - its matx(note the 2x gpu).



    Correct, one is for mITX and other is mATX. Neither is replacing each other. The version labels are made up. Both variations are available concurrently.
     
    I did a Prodigy AMD APU build for my parents earlier in the year. I'm thinking the Prodigy M is a better case layout.

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/08 23:18:37 (permalink)
    Testing out the mother board hole pattern on a piece of scrap aluminum.  

    This look good.. but its 2 am and my body is screaming for rest.  I will look into it more in the am.

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/09 04:55:26 (permalink)
    So I guess the IO cover won't be used with this block?
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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/09 09:18:53 (permalink)
    I never said that? 

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    Re: Z97 Stinger waterblock. Yes, it will happen. 2014/08/09 14:15:18 (permalink)
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    I never said that? 


    I just assumed because there is a piece of paper that is going beyond the IO cover between the usb/ethernet port stack and the display port stack.
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