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Information for Z690 Classified owners of what you can expect with Alder Lake, Raptor lake i will add in the next week. So you dont need to waste your time and mental health, maybe will be useful for someone I tested a lot of memory kits: four Samsung-B(G.skill 5600c36, G.Skill 6000c36, XPG 6000c40, Samsung 4800c40), three of Hynix-M(Fury 5200, Fury 5600, Hynix 4800c40) and two Hynix-A(G.skill 6400, Hynix 5600c46) with two 12600k and one 12900ks Max stable frequency limit on 12gen with this board is: Samsung B-die 6200, Hynix M-die 6400, Hynix A-die 7000
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Very poor result, if you ask me(C)
Vince said to me that Z690 Classified is not his project and he dont have any relation to this board, lol. Thats why Classy is behaving like a cheap board
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Hynix A Hynix M Samsung B
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/15 17:27:38
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Any tips on getting the G.Skill F5-8000J3848H16GX2 stable with the 13700K? I'm struggling with this mem kit. XMP doesn't boot into bios at all. I can only get into bios and windows at 5800 right now.
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/15 18:37:45
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Any tips on getting the G.Skill F5-8000J3848H16GX2 stable with the 13700K? I'm struggling with this mem kit. XMP doesn't boot into bios at all. I can only get into bios and windows at 5800 right now.
Did you set the XMP 1 Profile and then save and then Power Off the PSU?
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/15 19:00:02
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Any tips on getting the G.Skill F5-8000J3848H16GX2 stable with the 13700K? I'm struggling with this mem kit. XMP doesn't boot into bios at all. I can only get into bios and windows at 5800 right now.
Did you set the XMP 1 Profile and then save and then Power Off the PSU?
I did not power off the PSU. Is that required for whatever reason? I've never done that before.
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/16 06:40:15
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Any tips on getting the G.Skill F5-8000J3848H16GX2 stable with the 13700K? I'm struggling with this mem kit. XMP doesn't boot into bios at all. I can only get into bios and windows at 5800 right now.
Did you read the topic? with 12gen max is 7000 for classified with 13gen will be 7200/7400, i will test tomorrow when cpu will come For manual 7000 CPU VDDQ TX - 1.17vVDD2 - 1.34v 7000 1.45v/1.38vtCL - 32 tRCD - 40 tRP - 40 tRAS - 52 tRRD_S - 8 tRRD_L - 8 tRFC - 464 tRFCpb - 384 tREFI - 64000 tRDRD_SG - 16 tWRRD_SG - 60 tWRRD_DG - 48 tWRWR_SG - 24 Also, G.skill F5- 8000J3848H16GX2 is a scam/waste of money this XMP from the box can work only on Z790 Apex/ Z790i Edge / Z690-Z790 Dark / Z690 Tachyon You could buy G.skill 6400c32 with a-die for 190$, its the same in terms of overclocking better to return and save the money
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/16 08:13:43
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Awesome, it was posts like yours I read through when setting up my old SR-2 Classified board for overclocking really appreciate guys like you that test out memory sticks and CPU overclocks.
Sorry if this is derailing the topic, recently lost my SR-2 due to Hurricane IAN, and well I want to purchase a new motherboard to replace it.
From your experience would I be better off getting the z690 Kingpin since the z690 Classified is out of stock, was really quite fond of my old SR-2 and am sad to have lost it to flood.
I am looking forward to a new build however and will be following posters such as yourself rulik006.
Thanks for what you do on forums even if I dont get reply.
> PSU: EVGA 1300 Watt Gold> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 Dark Kingpin (BIOS v2.13)> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K> AIO: ROG Ryujin II 360 AIO> Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 96GB (2 x 48GB) DD5 6400> Physical Memory Model#: > Monitor: Aorus 43"> Video Card: MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X> Case: Hyte Y60> NVME: WD-Black SN850x 4TB, Samsung 980pro 2TB
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/16 08:49:51
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Thank you for this information. In your testing with Alderlake what was your best result with Hynix M with all 4 DIMMs populated? If you have not tested this setup are you willing to conduct some testing? I am running a i9-12900K with 4x16 G.Skill XMP CL32 6000mhz F5-6000J3238F16GX2-TZ5RK. I would really appreciate some help in getting as close to 6000mhz as possible. Currently with my limited knowledge of Alderlake and DDR5 I cannot get higher than 5200mhz stable with just XMP timings and voltages. I have seen multiple examples of ASUS boards achieving this with XMP settings on 4 DIMMs so I know it is possible but may just be a limitation of this EVGA product more than capabilities of the IMC necessarily.
PS. I am not sure of what I did but I did get a successful post at 6000mhz across 4 DIMMs once but was unable to replicate it because after I reset to go back into the bios I ended up in a postcode 54 loop.
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/16 11:48:46
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Any tips on getting the G.Skill F5-8000J3848H16GX2 stable with the 13700K? I'm struggling with this mem kit. XMP doesn't boot into bios at all. I can only get into bios and windows at 5800 right now.
Did you set the XMP 1 Profile and then save and then Power Off the PSU?
I did not power off the PSU. Is that required for whatever reason? I've never done that before.
Sometimes, I had too.
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/16 15:07:34
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From your experience would I be better off getting the z690 Kingpin since the z690 Classified is out of stock, was really quite fond of my old SR-2 and am sad to have lost it to flood.
I am looking forward to a new build however and will be following posters such as yourself rulik006.
Z690 Dark if you need good memory overclock
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/16 15:12:18
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Thank you for this information. In your testing with Alderlake what was your best result with Hynix M with all 4 DIMMs populated? If you have not tested this setup are you willing to conduct some testing? I am running a i9-12900K with 4x16 G.Skill XMP CL32 6000mhz F5-6000J3238F16GX2-TZ5RK. I would really appreciate some help in getting as close to 6000mhz as possible. Currently with my limited knowledge of Alderlake and DDR5 I cannot get higher than 5200mhz stable with just XMP timings and voltages. I have seen multiple examples of ASUS boards achieving this with XMP settings on 4 DIMMs so I know it is possible but may just be a limitation of this EVGA product more than capabilities of the IMC necessarily.
PS. I am not sure of what I did but I did get a successful post at 6000mhz across 4 DIMMs once but was unable to replicate it because after I reset to go back into the bios I ended up in a postcode 54 loop.
Currently i dont have 4x16 M-die to test. Best variant for 64gb is 2x32 A-die I had 2x32 M-die, i was able to do 6400, but didnt had the time to test it for stabillity. Max boot was 6400 i guess M-die 2x32 can run 6000/6200 stable, A-die most likely 6600 Also, i have good news: almost got managed to get Samsung B-die stable at 6600c32 One of the thing helped: ProcODT 34/48/48/40/34 or SA/MC PLL 0.980v or both
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/17 21:28:53
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This guy was right Ekwb1103with 13 gen its works worse then with 12 With Raptor Lake Classified behaves even worse than with Alder Lake. You expecting to get a memory boost 133-400mt/s with 13th gen, but in this case its vice versa Tried two bioses 2.06/2.08, spent 5hours testing Samsung and Hynix A-die With A-die i couldn't get even 6800 stable! with various TX/VDD2/MC PLL and procodt, despite with Alder Lake this board can do 7000 So 6600 for A-die, 6400 for B-die This board sucks and should be restricted for sale due to very poor memory topology/signaling, worse than cheapest MSI scrap
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/18 11:52:37
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rulik006
This guy was right
Ekwb1103with 13 gen its works worse then with 12
With Raptor Lake Classified behaves even worse than with Alder Lake. You expecting to get a memory boost 133-400mt/s with 13th gen, but in this case its vice versa
Tried two bioses 2.06/2.08, spent 5hours testing Samsung and Hynix A-die
With A-die i couldn't get even 6800 stable! with various TX/VDD2/MC PLL and procodt, despite with Alder Lake this board can do 7000
So 6600 for A-die, 6400 for B-die
This board sucks and should be restricted for sale due to very poor memory topology/signaling, worse than cheapest MSI scrap
i have same results with m die and a die... Mine m die,6600 12 gen, and 6600 13 gen(before 2.08 was 6400 on 13 gen):D can you write me in tg ekwb1103 and we will cry together, i do posts everywhere but no results
post edited by Ekwb1103 - 2023/01/18 11:56:27
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/18 13:18:40
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i have same results with m die and a die... Mine m die,6600 12 gen, and 6600 13 gen(before 2.08 was 6400 on 13 gen):D can you write me in tg ekwb1103 and we will cry together, i do posts everywhere but no results
got tired from this lame Classified. i took Unify-X from my stash and got 7400 in 5 minutes without any effort My advice just sell this underwhelming board
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/18 21:32:04
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i have same results with m die and a die... Mine m die,6600 12 gen, and 6600 13 gen(before 2.08 was 6400 on 13 gen):D can you write me in tg ekwb1103 and we will cry together, i do posts everywhere but no results
got tired from this lame Classified. i took Unify-X from my stash and got 7400 in 5 minutes without any effort
My advice just sell this underwhelming board
unify-x its 2 dimm board) little incorrect, but master, hero, unify its same hardware level boards(classified better, but bios its trash, Gigabyte master and tachyon also had similar problems on start, but in November they fix it and beat everything now)
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/18 22:55:40
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Ekwb1103 unify-x its 2 dimm board) little incorrect, but master, hero, unify its same hardware level boards(classified better, but bios its trash, Gigabyte master and tachyon also had similar problems on start, but in November they fix it and beat everything now)
Even Z690-F strix oc better
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/19 03:58:28
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Ekwb1103 unify-x its 2 dimm board) little incorrect, but master, hero, unify its same hardware level boards(classified better, but bios its trash, Gigabyte master and tachyon also had similar problems on start, but in November they fix it and beat everything now)
Even Z690-F strix oc better
y, i know
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/19 11:07:14
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Rofl, EVGA deleted from official website z690 classified
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/20 04:50:13
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great thread - and six months late for me
neverthles, I can confirm 6200 for B-die, It can be somewhat alleviated by manually relaxing round-trip and tMRR
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/28 10:17:23
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Little update G.skill 6600c34 M-die + 12600K Manual SA/TX/VDD2 Z690 Tomahawk - 6800 stable, surprisingly good result for cheap board Z690 Classified - cant even last 30sec Maybe Classified can run 6800 with lose RTL by 1 step on CH-B like on Tomahawk, will find out tommorow Currently Classified losing to cheapest MSI board, despite 10-layer pcb vs 6-layer Only good thing about Classified: Samsung B-die OC is better than on other boards
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/01/30 07:14:49
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higher RTL not helping Max 6800 M-die running 2 minutes without errors. 6600 stable with 6600 binned kit. A-die at 7200 just impossible on this board, errors in 10 sec various TX and VDD2 will not make better result final verdict on 2.08 bios + 12Gen ( My board is Rev1.3) B-die 6600 (possible with green sticks which are better than G.skill) M-die 6600 (only with highly binned M-die) A-die 7000 And if you wondering which board you should buy instead of your Classified, i can say: Z690 Aorus Master is able to do 7400 with 12gen, outclass Classified by 400mt/s  Currently is the best 4-dimm board which i tested (Asus & Msi worse) plus master is affordable, can be found used/open box around 250-330$
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/02/01 16:45:21
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So an update on my setup. I got 4 DIMMs to work in XMP1 on Gear 2.
The short version is this did not work the first time I tried it but now it does and is stable for no explainable reason. My G.Skill RAM is SK Hynix M die.
These are the steps:
1. CPU set to default settings to start.
2. VDDQ and VDD2 voltages to 1.2v and 1.35v respectively.
3. Undervolt the CPU by -15mv and leave Vdroop on auto. (not necessary but it is part of my settings)
4. Set RAM to XMP1 (XMP1 is 6000mhz for this RAM).
5. Selected the per DIMM setting for the voltages and set each DIMM to their rated voltage (in this case 1.35v).
6. Select Gear 2.
7. Manually set command rate to 2N.
8. Disabled C state 1.
9. Save and restart system.
I will progressively fine tune this set up over time. My only goal for this build was to get everything working as advertised and I reached that goal (except for the G.Skill RGB software for the RAM, the software won't detect DIMM 4). Now my new goal is to improve the overall power efficiency. Down the line I will tinker with overclocks to find the maximum stable potential with 4 DIMMs but for now I am happy.
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL Black Edition Motherboard: Z690 Classified CPU: i9-12900K @ default RAM: 4x16 G.Skill Trident Z5 CL32 6000mhz GPU: RTX 4090 FE @ default Cooling: EKWB O11 Dynamic XL distro plate, Vector 2 CPU and GPU blocks, x3 360 rads (x2 44mm, X1 30mm), x9 120mm Vardar X3M RGB Fans PSU: EVGA Supernova 1600W T2 with Cable Mod GPU and MB custom sleeved cables.
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/02/02 09:01:07
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1. CPU set to default settings to start.
2. VDDQ and VDD2 voltages to 1.2v and 1.35v respectively.
3. Undervolt the CPU by -15mv and leave Vdroop on auto. (not necessary but it is part of my settings)
4. Set RAM to XMP1 (XMP1 is 6000mhz for this RAM).
5. Selected the per DIMM setting for the voltages and set each DIMM to their rated voltage (in this case 1.35v).
6. Select Gear 2.
7. Manually set command rate to 2N.
8. Disabled C state 1.
I will progressively fine tune this set up over time. My only goal for this build was to get everything working as advertised and I reached that goal (except for the G.Skill RGB software for the RAM, the software won't detect DIMM 4). Now my new goal is to improve the overall power efficiency. Down the line I will tinker with overclocks to find the maximum stable potential with 4 DIMMs but for now I am happy.
You dont need manual select gear or command rate, it always will be gear2 under 8000 and 2N Can it pass one cycle of TM5 extreme anta preset or 20minutes of OCCT avx?
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/02/02 16:46:50
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1. CPU set to default settings to start.
2. VDDQ and VDD2 voltages to 1.2v and 1.35v respectively.
3. Undervolt the CPU by -15mv and leave Vdroop on auto. (not necessary but it is part of my settings)
4. Set RAM to XMP1 (XMP1 is 6000mhz for this RAM).
5. Selected the per DIMM setting for the voltages and set each DIMM to their rated voltage (in this case 1.35v).
6. Select Gear 2.
7. Manually set command rate to 2N.
8. Disabled C state 1.
I will progressively fine tune this set up over time. My only goal for this build was to get everything working as advertised and I reached that goal (except for the G.Skill RGB software for the RAM, the software won't detect DIMM 4). Now my new goal is to improve the overall power efficiency. Down the line I will tinker with overclocks to find the maximum stable potential with 4 DIMMs but for now I am happy.
You dont need manual select gear or command rate, it always will be gear2 under 8000 and 2N
Can it pass one cycle of TM5 extreme anta preset or 20minutes of OCCT avx?
I prefer to manually set settings regardless of built in parameters. Aside from that I don't use those tests you mentioned and I stick with testing that easily detects instability. Cinebench15/20/23 will all crash if its slightly unstable in the least and I run 10 passes each. Then run memtest64 for an hour. Then run several of the 3dmark benchmarks which will also crash if it is not stable. All while running hardware monitor on a separate screen. For gaming and streaming that should be enough to determine if the setup is stable for everyday use.
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL Black Edition Motherboard: Z690 Classified CPU: i9-12900K @ default RAM: 4x16 G.Skill Trident Z5 CL32 6000mhz GPU: RTX 4090 FE @ default Cooling: EKWB O11 Dynamic XL distro plate, Vector 2 CPU and GPU blocks, x3 360 rads (x2 44mm, X1 30mm), x9 120mm Vardar X3M RGB Fans PSU: EVGA Supernova 1600W T2 with Cable Mod GPU and MB custom sleeved cables.
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/02/02 20:42:23
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Well, gear 2 is default for ddr5, there is no gear1, only gear 2,4. Default is fine my ddr5 that runs at 8200 stable at default gear settings
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/02/06 11:32:38
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
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I don’t know what is manufacture of my ram, I have this kit Team T-Force Delta RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5600 (PC5 44800) Stable on 6666mhz 32-40-40-28 https://imgur.com/a/t9Frq9fTried 6800-7000 could start but did not pass tests. Tried 32-36 timings and 1.435v. Thinking about buying Hynix a-die kit, but not sure is it possible to get anything more? Will not to change motherboard, it’s awesome and I bought it on sales and now war in my country, so not right time for big upgrades. Tomorrow I will update this post with my settings in bios. BTW:how to increase voltage for ram more than 1.435v? Because I wasn’t able to do it on memory tab.
 13700KF(5600MHz), 32Gb DDR5(7400MHz), RTX4090FE, Z690 Classified, Corsair HX1500i, Custom water loop
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slickwicked616
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/03/05 18:52:56
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rulik006
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i have same results with m die and a die... Mine m die,6600 12 gen, and 6600 13 gen(before 2.08 was 6400 on 13 gen):D can you write me in tg ekwb1103 and we will cry together, i do posts everywhere but no results
got tired from this lame Classified. i took Unify-X from my stash and got 7400 in 5 minutes without any effort
My advice just sell this underwhelming board
what mobo do you recommend? im taking the classy as a loss. i just want a board that works thanks
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Re: Z690 Classified max stable memory Frequency
2023/03/05 19:11:33
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slickwicked616
what mobo do you recommend? im taking the classy as a loss. i just want a board that works thanks
Gigabyte Z790 Aero G $300EVGA Z690 Dark $400
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