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2021/11/14 15:58:35 (permalink)
 Hey y'all, hope everyone is doing well.
 
 I should have some time this week to finally put together my new 590 Dark/11900k PC. 
 
 So I'm putting together some notes to get everything started and set up at STOCK first so I can get my windows set up and running well, as this is going to be my everyday PC.  Then after that, I will try tweaking it out for best performance.
 
 The one thing I never could find any info on is how to just set this up as a stock-settings PC. I would assume that just letting everything set itself to 
"Auto" should be the best way to achieve this, BUT, I like to manually set my voltages for my CPU and RAM, and then set my RAM to XMP1 and let that be an everyday setting.
 So should this be ok to do with this setup?  And what should I start at with my CPU voltage for the 11900k? 
 
 The parts are:
EVGA Dark Z590
intel 11900K/ EVGA 280mm CL cooler.
WD SN850 M.2
Corsair Vengeance 3600 2X16
EVGA 3080RTX
EVGA 1200 PSU
 
Again, I just want to get it set up and running to make sure al the parts are working well, get windows 100 Pro installed, and THEN I will start tweaking.
 
Even pictures of BIOS setting with a similar setup would be fine.
 
thanks!!


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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/15 11:12:13 (permalink)
No ideas on this? Yikes, lol
 
 In a google search, I can't even find what the stock voltage should be for this CPU.  I know they run way too hot at auto, so I'll just try 1.27v or something like that.  I might just try the voltages I'm using for my 9900k, they seem very stable.
 
There are TONS of videos for this online for the ASUS boards, but the BIOS is very different on that board.  Can't find any for the EVGA board though...
  
 
post edited by JimBeamBlack - 2021/11/15 11:14:03


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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/15 17:24:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2021/11/20 06:27:04
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No ideas on this? Yikes, lol
 
 In a google search, I can't even find what the stock voltage should be for this CPU.  I know they run way too hot at auto, so I'll just try 1.27v or something like that.  I might just try the voltages I'm using for my 9900k, they seem very stable.
 
There are TONS of videos for this online for the ASUS boards, but the BIOS is very different on that board.  Can't find any for the EVGA board though...
  
 




It's unfortunate that TiN is no more at EVGA, really a lot of stuff got impacted, which I don't want to mention here but check Luumi's YT video guide and overview on this board, I hope that helps...here
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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/15 17:29:41 (permalink)
1.45v is upper limit most people push for doing benching oc, for a daily probably a bit much lol but as long as it's below that should be fine.  Don't need to adjust vccio on 11 series just vccsa and vccio2/vcciomem/aux for memory overclocking if tuning and not using XMP.  Per core OC is pretty strong on 11 series but I think EVGA still has the bug where it doesn't work right so you can't use that.  51-52x seems upper limit of all core, cache is hard to oc to previous gens and 43x seems reasonable from what I've seen.
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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/16 04:23:49 (permalink)
 Cool!! Thanks guys! HOW did I not find that video?? THANK you for that!!
 
  Yeah, I just need a solid starting point, then I can start adjusting things to get it just right AFTER I get windows 11 installed and stable. 
 
 So 1.45v?  Good deal I will keep everything below that just to be safe.
I have seen guys talking about anywhere from 1.27v to 1.5v and that scares me there is no solid info on this series chip with this EVGA board and NOTHING about running it at stock or any kind of default, other than people who pop it into their boards and the voltage defaults to some crazy number!!  I did find a overclock chart that shows basically how far you can push this chip (or should be able to) with temps and results and so forth, so I can use that as a guide on where I want to be as far as temps and such.
 
thank you again, this should be all I need for now.
 
  


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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/16 04:38:19 (permalink)
 That video is awesome!! That guy Luumi is a Guru!!
 
 He mentions that "bug" (or could be a feature) about setting the per-core voltage in the BIOS as an intel bug/feature but says it also appears in certain cases in the Eleet as well. (about 7 mins in)  THAT must be how all these other guys around the net are winding up with 1.5v and high temps even though they have it set properly in their BIOS!?!
 
again thank you for this!!  I owe y 'all guys a beer!!  (or some Johnny Walker Black!!)
 
post edited by JimBeamBlack - 2021/11/16 04:39:56


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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/18 10:09:39 (permalink)
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 Cool!! Thanks guys! HOW did I not find that video?? THANK you for that!!
 
  Yeah, I just need a solid starting point, then I can start adjusting things to get it just right AFTER I get windows 11 installed and stable. 
 
 So 1.45v?  Good deal I will keep everything below that just to be safe.
I have seen guys talking about anywhere from 1.27v to 1.5v and that scares me there is no solid info on this series chip with this EVGA board and NOTHING about running it at stock or any kind of default, other than people who pop it into their boards and the voltage defaults to some crazy number!!  I did find a overclock chart that shows basically how far you can push this chip (or should be able to) with temps and results and so forth, so I can use that as a guide on where I want to be as far as temps and such.
 
thank you again, this should be all I need for now.
 
  




Hello JimBeamBlack,
 
Default Vcore depends on the type RAM your running, memory frequency, and bin/quality of your CPU.
 
With 2x8GB @ 5866MHz memory gear 2,.. in default settings my Vcore runs @ 1.581v for 5,300.0 MHz. https://imgur.com/zxnwSEV
 
With 2x8GB @ 3733MHz memory gear 1,.. in default settings my Vcore runs @ 1.368v for 5,300.0 MHz. https://imgur.com/tKNop8p
 
Default CPU VCCIO Mem OC & CPU VCCSA voltage's will also increase when running higher frequency RAM. 
 
 
 
 
 

post edited by Braegnok - 2021/11/19 15:03:29
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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/19 18:35:33 (permalink)
I've got 2x16gig modules, 3600mhz, I'm going to run those in the EMP 1 profile, and most likely Gear 1? Which I assume is the best place to start. (I have no idea what Gear really is yet)
 
 So I should probably try 1.368v for the stock starting setting to test my cooling and such, and then go from there.  
 
 So, it appears I'm going to find my sweet spot between 1.3 and 1.45 volts.  
 
I guess I'll finally find out tomorrow night.  ;-)
 
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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/20 05:19:03 (permalink)
I would recommend try using Advanced Voltage Offset,.. with [negative offset] to lower your default Vcore. 
 
In your EVGA Z590 BIOS under the OC tab look in Voltage Control menu,.. for Asus it's called V/F Point Offset,..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UW2G25pzxA 
post edited by Braegnok - 2021/11/20 13:57:52
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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/20 06:31:13 (permalink)
I'd start V @ 1.330 and work up from there to V 1.45 for a daily driver & V 1.47 for a Max ... until you want to find the limits
 
Auto voltage can tend to allow higher Voltages ... mostly for ease of use, but with higher temps
 
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Re: Z590 Dark/11900k, Best way to create a stock BIOS profile 2021/11/24 05:41:28 (permalink)
Ok, well I got it all setup, I'll post my settings here later tonight.
 
 I have had some major issues with this system so far, but I THINK I got it straightened out.
 
 Did something really stupid, when I took out the Z390 board I "accidentally" left the extra standoff that the Z590 doesn't use, I was distracted by the backplate already being on the Z590 board, (I have never seen that before) was showing my son and totally forgot to pull that standoff.
 
 Everything seemed to work at first but then every time I tried to install a driver (video, sound whatever) the PC/Windows would crash with a "Machine Check Exception" and force me to reboot. NEVER ONCE created any log file.  Programs, games and apps installed fine, games ran fine, got 16,876 on my first "Stock" 3D Mark score.  Ran CrystalMark on my M.2, Ran Prime95 for about 30 mins, Ran Cinebench R15, ran the windows memory diagnostic, re-installed windows 11, EVERYTHING seemed to be fine.
 
 Then when restoring all my backup folders and files my windows (File Explorer) locked, I was able to do a proper reboot BUT upon restart one of my drives was GONE. (a flash storage drive).
 
So I tore the PC apart, found the rogue standoff, slapped myself in the head, and put it back together.
 
After doing some testing though I found out that the bad piece of hardware was the dying Hard/Flash storage drive, and now it's totally dead, THANK goodness I have all that data backed up on my NAS. 
 
for 3 days I have been going crazy, and the forums were down so I couldn't seek advice. 
 
 
 So, long story short, I have no idea if the extra standoff was causing any issues, but the board looks fine, and I THINK that the hard drive was causing all the issues with windows.
 
 
  I have my voltages set according to the recommendations here, BUT I'm not totally sure if I set everything correctly with the vccsa and vccio2/vcciomem/aux, so I will post my voltage settings here tonight and see what you guys think.
 
 


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