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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/22 01:57:36 (permalink)
5.56ghz 6 cores 12 threads @1.36volts

https://valid.x86.fr/pnp3j9


5.858ghz 1 core 1 thread @1.345volts

https://valid.x86.fr/83u986

hwbot link for pictures

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/22 08:11:19 (permalink)
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Yeah that was what I was thinking, for more vdroop ( less voltage during load) one needs to progressively add higher positive values. The higher the positive value the more it is going to "vdroop".
Negative numbers would increase voltage under load.
 


Those were my observations as well, with the slight caveat that you could still receive a droop (less voltage under load) with a negative number setting as the voltage change (vdroop or bride lol) is based on what your voltage would be from Intel's standard droop.

For me, my vcore is set at 1.340v and vdroop set to -25, vcore fluctuates between 1.337 and 1.340. Pretty darn close to rock steady at 1.340.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/22 08:29:05 (permalink)
I have observed that whatever you put in at vcore, there's a slight increase under idle and a slight boost at -25%.  For me, that's with C states disabled and all virtualization disabled in the bios.  

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/22 08:31:59 (permalink)
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Yeah that was what I was thinking, for more vdroop ( less voltage during load) one needs to progressively add higher positive values. The higher the positive value the more it is going to "vdroop".
Negative numbers would increase voltage under load.
 


Those were my observations as well, with the slight caveat that you could still receive a droop (less voltage under load) with a negative number setting as the voltage change (vdroop or bride lol) is based on what your voltage would be from Intel's standard droop.

For me, my vcore is set at 1.340v and vdroop set to -25, vcore fluctuates between 1.337 and 1.340. Pretty darn close to rock steady at 1.340.


 
Nice!

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/22 10:13:31 (permalink)
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5.56ghz 6 cores 12 threads @1.36volts

https://valid.x86.fr/pnp3j9


5.858ghz 1 core 1 thread @1.345volts

https://valid.x86.fr/83u986

hwbot link for pictures

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Nice job!!


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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/22 10:17:35 (permalink)
Thanks, much appreciated. Trying to see what I can take the 6cores 12 threads to, and pump out some cinabench scores.
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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/22 11:37:23 (permalink)
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Thanks, much appreciated. Trying to see what I can take the 6cores 12 threads to, and pump out some cinabench scores.



Nice speeds. What Cinebench scores you getting now?

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/22 11:42:33 (permalink)
1708 @ 5.4ghz 6 cores 12 threads. Didn't run one at 5.56ghz yet because it was an afterthought to climbing the cpu frequency leader boards with the 5.858 1 core
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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/23 06:01:01 (permalink)
Just ran and passed a 20 minute stress test with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility on my Z390 Dark and 9900k. All still at default settings.
CPU core temps typically ran in the 50's and 60's with an occasional spike up to around 70. Highest a single core got was 72c.
 
Hopefully I have some room for overclocking my system. Doing some reading up on this and hope to begin the process here in the next day or so. Very pleased so far with the performance I am already seeing out of this new rig. 

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/23 09:59:25 (permalink)
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Just ran and passed a 20 minute stress test with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility on my Z390 Dark and 9900k. All still at default settings.
CPU core temps typically ran in the 50's and 60's with an occasional spike up to around 70. Highest a single core got was 72c.
 
Hopefully I have some room for overclocking my system. Doing some reading up on this and hope to begin the process here in the next day or so. Very pleased so far with the performance I am already seeing out of this new rig. 


what cpu frequency?  and go at least 30 minutes to an hour.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/23 10:40:44 (permalink)
like I said use rog realbench, xtu stress test doesnt get temps high as they should be, commit alot of memory and let it go for 15min then 1hr.
if it passes 15minutes without crashinng on comedown it should be fine though.  just remember to turn ur gpu fans on as it runs gpu too.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/23 11:35:03 (permalink)
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Just ran and passed a 20 minute stress test with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility on my Z390 Dark and 9900k. All still at default settings.
CPU core temps typically ran in the 50's and 60's with an occasional spike up to around 70. Highest a single core got was 72c.
 
Hopefully I have some room for overclocking my system. Doing some reading up on this and hope to begin the process here in the next day or so. Very pleased so far with the performance I am already seeing out of this new rig. 


what cpu frequency?  and go at least 30 minutes to an hour.


Just the default right now till I figure out the overclocking.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/23 17:42:41 (permalink)
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The bios stress test didnt do anything for me. XTU followed by realbench for a while then cinebench is what i do. Cinebench seems hardest to pass. Geekbench 3 is harder than xtu.

Ugh i need to figure out where to sell my crap cpu so i can buy a descent one off someone or on SL

Maybe not the most honest thing to do, so I would never even consider it, but in theory couldn't you just buy a new chip and put the old one in the new packaging and return it?  I always Hone the heat spreader or machine new ones so I cannot even remember if there is a printed code on the die that matches the box.  


 
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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/01/24 08:01:23 (permalink)
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9900k @ 5.2GHz (x52)
VCore: Override set to 1.340v w/ -75% VDroop
AVX Offset: 0
DIMM: 4133MHz 17-17-17-38 @ 1.45v
 
Cinebench: Passed w/ 2280 - vcore spiked to 1.4v w/ CPU temp ~80c
Prime95: All thread workers passed for over an hour (min/max FFT size set to 1344, run FFTs in place enabled) - vcore maxed at 1.391v w/ CPU temp 60-65c
 
When I tried to tighten up my DIMM timings to 16-16-16-36, Prime95 failed about 20min in. I'm going to try 1.5v on the DIMM to see if it will pass over an hour.
 
Do you think my voltage settings are too high? Overall, very pleased with this board.
 
voltages are fine, however fixed 1344k prime95 is no stability test, the load on the cpu is rather low compared ot a full custom run.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/01 05:40:02 (permalink)
what kind of LLC are you guys using?
 
I'm using -25% which is almost no vdrop.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/01 05:42:09 (permalink)
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what kind of LLC are you guys using?
 
I'm using -25% which is almost no vdrop.


That's what I'm using and same observation. My vcore is set to 1.340, drops to 1.337

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/01 06:05:14 (permalink)
-25%

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/01 08:08:56 (permalink)
If you are talking vdroop, I am running -50%.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/01 11:22:04 (permalink)
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If you are talking vdroop, I am running -50%.


what I'd like to ask Tin is what the VRM can do to soften the spike you get when load is removed.  I've read where the spike is much less with a great VRM.   So that's why I chose -25% and I'm not pushing top voltages either. 

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/01 12:32:24 (permalink)
Excuse me I double checked, I am running +50% on Vdroop, not -50%.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/04 10:52:25 (permalink)
hi guys, I got my dark last week, I have direct die cooling on 9900k. So my temps are quite low. 5.3 ghz 1.42 vcore -50% droop, stable at 1.45 volts on load and temps around 60 at all cores. My chip probably no good. But I have problem about my ram. I have trident z royal 4600. Xmp no posts. Actually more than 3800 mhz no posts. 3800 posts, no problem. I tried at 5.0 ghz 1.35 vcore, 1.40, 1.35, vsa, vccio, dimm v 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, on auto no posts. It' s like what ever I do board no wants go on these frequencies above 3800. Anybody have idea, I' m probably missing something, these 4600 rams should be binned. So it' s my cpu weak, or some problem about my board? 
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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/04 11:17:12 (permalink)
what's your SA/IO at?
 
your cpu is idle at 60c right? no way in heaven its 60c on load.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/04 11:31:34 (permalink)
I m just testing for 2 days. 5.3 pass cinebench at around 62c. But my die around 0.35-0.40 mm height. And direct die cooling at around 23c water temp. My idle is around 28-30c. No have time to try prime. Maybe temps go near 70c. My sa/io is 1.45/1.40, and I tried with lower cpu speed to help imc. No helps. Not possible to post more than 3800 ghz ram speed.
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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/04 11:46:53 (permalink)
whats' the ramkit you having?
 
I'm at 1.42 for 5.3Ghz. getting about 80-85c with prime95 benching. Heatkiller IV (no direct DIE) and 25c water temp

check my pictures on the previous page maybe you can copy the timings? 4600 you have to have really good IMC. you should be able to do at least 4133 though.

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/04 11:52:20 (permalink)
4600 z royal ram I have. I m not after 4600, but I can not get above 3800. I tried 1.8v even. Nothing changed.
I also have heatkiller IV. Posted on your OC frame topic in day time. Prime95 tomorrow I try. But you need lap the die and the heatkiller plate and do direct DIE for better temps on cores.
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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/04 12:17:46 (permalink)
I can't get them even to work, without that not lapping :)
 
I can boot stock settings with OC frame, but any OC will result in bootloop, while it works with stock frame.
 
too much sa/io can fail too.
 
try 1.28-1.3 SA/IO with those settings here:
 
4266 https://abload.de/img/4266_hci9nj96.jpg
 
or try these: 4000 https://abload.de/image.php?img=4000qjecr.png

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/04 13:00:51 (permalink)
Thx a lot. Tomorrow I' ll try these. Heatkiller plate is really convex, you need to lap the plate for even pressure on the frame and the die. And apply full force on the screws. And also do you have the back plate for the heatkiller? maybe this also effects the pressure distribution on the pins. And I watched some video about derBaurer isolating some pins to see how much current is needed for 9900 or 8700 work. Don t remember now. So maybe because of not enough mounting pressure, all pins for power are not touching the cpu. And when needed extra current, your cpu doesn t post. Because he isolated lots of pins and the cpu still posted.
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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/06 06:20:59 (permalink)
So after testing for 2 days, my stable results; 5.3 ghz, 2 avx, 1.45 vcore, - 25% droop, my ram problem continues in a different situation. I am not expert in overclocking. But read a lot, try a lot. Learn from you guys how to push limits. So my situation evolved like this. At 5.0 ghz, 1.35 vcore, 1.4/1.4 sa/io, 1.6 dram voltage
 
I can work my rams stable at 3900, 15, 15, 15, 2T
 
Post but bsod on benching at 3900, 14, 14, 14, 1T
 
What ever I do system not posting at or above 4000 mhz. It is like there is a wall at 4000 mhz. 4000 mhz with 20 timings even not posting.
 
Could it be a bios issue or just my 9900k imc is weak? I pushed dram voltage to 2.0, sa/io 1.5/1.5, nothing changes. Same bootloop. System not even trying to boot :)
 
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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/06 08:38:42 (permalink)
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So after testing for 2 days, my stable results; 5.3 ghz, 2 avx, 1.45 vcore, - 25% droop, my ram problem continues in a different situation. I am not expert in overclocking. But read a lot, try a lot. Learn from you guys how to push limits. So my situation evolved like this. At 5.0 ghz, 1.35 vcore, 1.4/1.4 sa/io, 1.6 dram voltage
 
I can work my rams stable at 3900, 15, 15, 15, 2T
 
Post but bsod on benching at 3900, 14, 14, 14, 1T
 
What ever I do system not posting at or above 4000 mhz. It is like there is a wall at 4000 mhz. 4000 mhz with 20 timings even not posting.
 
Could it be a bios issue or just my 9900k imc is weak? I pushed dram voltage to 2.0, sa/io 1.5/1.5, nothing changes. Same bootloop. System not even trying to boot :)
 


Read over kingpins article in the OC Lab area if you have not already.  What temps are you seeing at 5.3 on the CPU?

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Re: Z390 Dark Owners OC Results & Scores Thread - Post Em! 2019/02/06 09:00:45 (permalink)
Delirious
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So after testing for 2 days, my stable results; 5.3 ghz, 2 avx, 1.45 vcore, - 25% droop, my ram problem continues in a different situation. I am not expert in overclocking. But read a lot, try a lot. Learn from you guys how to push limits. So my situation evolved like this. At 5.0 ghz, 1.35 vcore, 1.4/1.4 sa/io, 1.6 dram voltage
 
I can work my rams stable at 3900, 15, 15, 15, 2T
 
Post but bsod on benching at 3900, 14, 14, 14, 1T
 
What ever I do system not posting at or above 4000 mhz. It is like there is a wall at 4000 mhz. 4000 mhz with 20 timings even not posting.
 
Could it be a bios issue or just my 9900k imc is weak? I pushed dram voltage to 2.0, sa/io 1.5/1.5, nothing changes. Same bootloop. System not even trying to boot :)
 


Read over kingpins article in the OC Lab area if you have not already.  What temps are you seeing at 5.3 on the CPU?


62-68c on load, I have direct die cooling. I' ve already read that article. My problem is that something looks blocking the imc from training. But I have very little experience on memory oc. So probably I' m wrong. 3800-3900 mhz, when I tighten timings, I can see the training on the display, sometimes takes longer. But after 4000, directly bootloop comes like Kingpin mentioned. I try everything but bootloop sequince not changing. Not getting longer, or shorter.
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